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UFOs?
- Thread starter nittany03
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From the NYT article:
"The near miss, he and other pilots interviewed said, angered the squadron, and convinced them that the objects were not part of a classified drone program. Government officials would know fighter pilots were training in the area, they reasoned, and would not send drones to get in the way."
? Dude, we can't get P8s and F18s to properly coordinate altitude blocks on COMTUEX. What makes you think the CIA, NASA or whoever else perhaps involved is coordinating with the Navy on MOAs, Warning Areas or anything else?
"The near miss, he and other pilots interviewed said, angered the squadron, and convinced them that the objects were not part of a classified drone program. Government officials would know fighter pilots were training in the area, they reasoned, and would not send drones to get in the way."
? Dude, we can't get P8s and F18s to properly coordinate altitude blocks on COMTUEX. What makes you think the CIA, NASA or whoever else perhaps involved is coordinating with the Navy on MOAs, Warning Areas or anything else?
Well now, the highly regarded Popular Mechanics magazine with prizes like “Wordless Workshop” says the videos are real... https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a29073804/navy-ufo-videos-real/
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I watched the tape. It looks more like a glitch rather than a return off an aircraft.
Another former Black Ace speaks up about the 2004 Nimitz/CVW-11 incident. Not really anything new, but he shot the FLIR video and does confirm he wasn't aggressively moving the jet around at the time.
...or not.
I feel we must be climbing into a UFO during some of my proficiency flight evaluations (PFE). I call out a checklist item, followed by the copilot being evaluated looking around cockpit for the switch I just called out. My mind asks the question (because I'm not sarcastic enough to ask it out loud), "You have been in this aircraft before, right? This isn't a UFO we're in, right?"
UFO researcher FOIAs ONI for classified videos of the Nimitz incident. ONI FOIA coordinator notes that the videos are TS, and uses the definition of TS material from the appropriate Executive Order in her response. Media now shocked that the release of material appropriately classified as TS would cause "exceptionally grave damage to national security." Even though that's . . . uhh . . . the definition of what makes something classified TS to begin with. 
Don't they just use crop circles to get around?
First, you can't FOIA classified material - It's exempt. Second, I don't see how the videos could be TS unless someone decided the content merited further protection, which seems dubious at best. Lastly, of course the media went high & right, because the media that is interested in this kind of stuff is 100% motivated by clickbait.UFO researcher FOIAs ONI for classified videos of the Nimitz incident. ONI FOIA coordinator notes that the videos are TS, and uses the definition of TS material from the appropriate Executive Order in her response. Media now shocked that the release of material appropriately classified as TS would cause "exceptionally grave damage to national security." Even though that's . . . uhh . . . the definition of what makes something classified TS to begin with.
Of course you can't FOIA classified material . . . but someone tried, hence my eyerolling snark about this whole thing. And what they're saying is TS is "certain briefing slides." Given that it's ONI, maybe other stuff from other sources is mixed in those "certain slides?" Or maybe the whole thing just ended up on JWICS for some reason, and someone got lazy with the "classify" button in Outlook? I have no idea.
It just entertains me that some poor government functionary used the book definition of TS material explaining why the TS material can't be declassified, and the media sees it and goes ZOMG CONSPIRACY!! Like you said, clickbait.
The article says the video (which ONI isn't OCA of) is Secret...nothing to see there. But the fact that they have TS slides on the incident is interesting, to say the least. Bound to drive the tinfoil hat tribes crazy.