United 93

[A4sForever]

......comparing an event that occured 50 years ago, to one that happened 5. Little bit of a difference there.

Well then ... how come guys avenging these events said things like:

"Remember Pearl Harbor"!!! ...

and

"Remember the ALAMO"!!! ....????

 

[KBayDog]

Call me cynical, but Hollywood does not make movies for altruistic motives. They make them to make money. If 100% of the profits from this movie were going to the victims' families, the memorial or charity - then I would accept all the BS the director said about his motives.

I'll agree about the director's "motives," but even if 100% of the profits went to the victims' families, the banks would make money off the interest, the colleges would make money off the tuition, etc.

The memorial? The contractors/suppliers would make money off the parts and labor.

Charity? The money would go where the charities spend it.

Like it or not, someone is always going to make money.

You are comparing an event that occured 50 years ago, to one that happened 5. Little bit of a difference there.

True, but folks like John Ford, Edmund Grainger, and Robert Fellows made excellent war movies almost as the actual events occurred. These gentlemen made timely movies (many of which could certainly qualify as propaganda, but who cares?) that reminded the general public of the "evil malignancies" we were fighting at the time.

They also served to remind Ma and Pa Kettle why Johnny was thousands miles away fighting for his life - because there were people who wanted us either dead or speaking Japanese/German/etc.

Fortunately, we never lost our nerve back then, and have since enjoyed the freedoms so many fought to defend.

Let us never forget that there are evil people out there who will stop at nothing until we are all dead. If we are are constantly reminded ("We Will Never Forget," right?), we will not lose our nerve today, or anytime in the future.

I just hope and pray that Americans never lose sight of what happened that day, the 25 years leading up to that day, and every day since.

 

[goosegagnon2]

Call me cynical, but Hollywood does not make movies for altruistic motives. They make them to make money. If 100% of the profits from this movie were going to the victims' families, the memorial or charity - then I would accept all the BS the director said about his motives.

While I'm not saying that United 93 was made or not made solely for profit, but there seems to be a heavy anti-hollywood movement on AW. I will agree that Hollywood does make some BS movies and also makes movies just to make $$$. Has anyone thought that there are people in Hollywood that do care? Saving Private Ryan and Schindler's List comes to mind. Although they did make tons of money off of these movies, are you guys saying that they are simply spoiled because Hollywood is only trying to make money? I highly doubt it...

*The time issue may not be a big deal, look at Apoclypse Now; released in 1979 and American involvment in Vietnam ended in 1973...6 years...jus a thought....*

 

[Jolly Roger]

You are comparing an event that occured 50 years ago, to one that happened 5. Little bit of a difference there.

There is a little known film about Pearl Harbor that came out in '42 or '43, I believe, and it was directed by John Ford. When you see black and white dramatizations of the attack, they are cut from that film. I believe that is was also sponsored by the War Department.


War Department.......why can't we have that instead of Department of Defense?

 

[Brett327]

War Department.......why can't we have that instead of Department of Defense?

Little thing called the National Security Act of 1947

Brett

 

[Godspeed]

Has anyone thought that there are people in Hollywood that do care? Saving Private Ryan and Schindler's List comes to mind. Although they did make tons of money off of these movies, are you guys saying that they are simply spoiled because Hollywood is only trying to make money? I highly doubt it...

Both of these movies were spearheaded by arguably the most respectable/professional director out there; Spielberg. These movies were made in an attempt to realistically portray momentous events in history. Both are oscar winning films that are extremely well done... Agreed.

However, it isn't too hard for people like me to doubt Hollywood. They are reputable for pushing shady political agendas in their films. Furthermore, 99.99% of them are rich, left wing, liberal, democratic, pot smoking, tree hugging, hippie loving, John Kerry supporting pussies, that are about as much of an authority on the real world as clinton is on marital fidelity.

 

[Lawman]

there seems to be a heavy anti-hollywood movement on AW.

You wernt here for the Jarhead threads were you? This is no where near Anti-Hollywood at the moment.

 

[A4sForever]

....there seems to be a heavy anti-hollywood movement on AW. ....

HEY !!! There better not be !!! I was BORN in Hollywood, for God's sake !!!

Anymore of this right-wing Air Warriors anti-Hollywood crap and I'm outta' here .... :icon_rast

For sure .... :icon_brav

 

[Jolly Roger]

Little thing called the National Security Act of 1947

Brett

Awww comeon, look at what that got us- the Air Force and the stationary bike as a physical test.

 

[TuxFlier]

Oh come on ...... the bike test has been gone for 2 years.

BTW, saw the movie - you could hear a pin drop in the theater at the end.

 

[eddie]

Now, maybe I'm full of sh!t, but, maybe its better that the movie be made now, rather than later.

I think the longer you wait to make this kind of thing, the more and more politicized/out-of-touch/embellished with innaccuracy it would become.

As far as making money off of a national tragedy, I can only wonder what would happen if people started getting mad at doctors for making money off illness.

 

[Pugs]

Instead of a movie there should be a mandatory public reading of the 9/11 report of that fateful day for every American every year. If you've not read it do so. If it doesn't infuriate you to the core you might be in the wrong business.

 

[Jameski]

Here's the report

I saw the film on Saturday night... anger was one of the top emotions I had coming out of the film.

 

[MattWSU]

...in another couple decades 9/11/01 will be forgotten for current events as well.

I really doubt it.

 

[Lawman]

I really doubt it.

Talk to any highschool/college student and ask them what the significance of December 7, 1941 is..... bet money you'll end up with a lot of blank looks and no answer. Unless you go to the History department.