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USMC Executive Flight Detachment (HMX-1 and Presidential Helo)

HeyJoe

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True, but then again, some of the distances they'll fly the VC-25 ("real name" of Air Force One) are kinda silly. The President came down to Norfolk once or twice in the last few years, and they brought the whole road show with them. A 747 flight between Andrews and Norfolk? "Gear up...approach checks".

So it'd make sense to have a Presidential tiltrotor for those short hops, but they'd probably have to pressurize the cabin among many other things, bells and whistles and machines that go "ping". I'm a fan of the Osprey, but I think there's probably more than a few undiscovered bugs remaining to be worked out before it's ready to be Marine One.

It's not just transportation, it's a Command and Control node for the president. If it's not close to him, it's amzing what has to be set up for the one and only CinC (and his staff).
 

bert

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It's not just transportation, it's a Command and Control node for the president. If it's not close to him, it's amzing what has to be set up for the one and only CinC (and his staff).

And that is an enormous part of the troubles with increment two.
 

Scoob

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So it'd make sense to have a Presidential tiltrotor for those short hops,...
Somehow, I envision the official USAF retort to a proposal along these lines to include the words "cold" and "hell" somewhere within a 25 page document - the first of which devoted largely to a ref list.;)
 

HeyJoe

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Sikorsky asked to look at extending service life of VH-3D airframes

Looks like VH-3D may be around for some time according to this article.

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cfam

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Some time is right..2020 is a bit of a wait. Won't those airframes be bumping up against the end of their service life by then?
 

Herc_Dude

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Some time is right..2020 is a bit of a wait. Won't those airframes be bumping up against the end of their service life by then?

I'm sure they will make sure the Prez has a solid, safe ride.
 

bobbybrock

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The LUH and ARH were supposed to be quick of the shelf purchases as well. We see how that is going. The Army had the ECS removed from the LUH. Now it is going to cost more to get it put back in. The Army isn't the smartest bunch when it comes to procurement.
 

bert

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Nothing about these problems are new. The difference is that "back in the day" the prices were small time (relatively speaking) compared to various fixed wing projects. All that changed (as our Army friends well know) with the death of the Comanche.

Having said that, -71 is uglier than most simply because of the eye-watering $$/airframe and the added political football of the EH-101 being a foreign-born aircraft.
 

HeyJoe

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Official Navy News Release

Another Presidential Test Helicopter Takes to the Air

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NAVAIR PATUXENT RIVER, MD -- Test Vehicle 3, the third helicopter built for the VH-71 Presidential Helicopter Replacement Program, made its initial flight Feb. 27 in Yeovil, England marking the fourth helicopter to enter flight test.

TV-3 is due to arrive at the Presidential Helicopter Support Facility here on Mar. 17 and will then travel to Lockheed Martin Systems Integration in Owego, N.Y. for final assembly and mission systems integration. TV-3 will be the first vehicle tested that is outfitted with mission systems.


Once missionized TV-3 will join the other three test vehicles, TV-1, TV-2 and TV-5 already in flight testing that have accumulated more than 650 total hours of flight test.


As a missionized aircraft, TV-3 will be able to validate in-flight data, which has previously only been evaluated in laboratories. One additional test vehicle is scheduled for flight testing and missionization after TV-3 before the initial lot of production aircraft are delivered to Patuxent River.


With fuel system testing already complete, VH-71 flight test officials are currently concentrating on satellite communications and high-powered FM Radio testing with tail rotor and flight load survey testing on the horizon.


In addition to forward movement on flight testing of Increment 1 test vehicles, which currently meet or exceed all key performance parameters, a parallel and concurrent effort supporting the flight test program is the Systems Integration Lab currently operational at the Presidential Helicopter Support Facility.


The SIL consists of test benches used to evaluate individual subsystems currently in development. A larger SIL facility at Lockheed Martin Systems Integration in Owego, NY includes a master systems bench -- a full-scale functional mockup of the VH-71 cockpit and cabin. The systems integration laboratories allow VH-71 program engineers to test VH-71 avionics and mission systems prior to installation aboard the aircraft.
 
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