Terrorists live in the space between where laws hold and where wars hold. The Wild Wild Wests.
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War in Israel
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Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
No no no... you see, when someone repeats the slogan "from the river to the sea," it means that they support Palestine's existence as a nation and not the extermination of all Jews in the region. Why can't you understand? /s
They cannot accept that these two things are 100% correlated. I feel like someone should pull a Dave Chapelle "parent swap" and drop these Christian white rich people off to live in an Islamic nation for a few months so they can see first hand how much their rights and opinions are respected.
Gaza is part of Israel in all but name. Israel controls the supplies going to it, it controls the comings and goings of the population, etc. There is not currently a 2 state solution in place, which means there is 1 state: Israel.
Yes, and if a small minority of them attacked us then we would not be justified in slaughtering the lot of them.
Ummmm…Egypt?
To go from there to saying their own people attacked them is stretching it, to say the least.
Israel is responsible for the people of Gaza. They have said that themselves. Hell, the Israeli government has been giving money and support to Hamas for years. That's why I say "their people" attacked them. Gaza is not a separate state... it is a part of the Israeli state, no matter how inconvenient that may be.
As for Egypt... yes, Egypt also works in concert with Israel to limit the freedom of travel of the Palestinians. Egypt doesn't control the utilities in Gaza, like Israel does. I don't get your point.
Jews have long been an ‘other’ where they’ve lived, mainly in Europe and the Middle East. Their success, perceived or real, and their ‘separateness’ that was often enforced from their neighbors have long made them a convenient target for whoever was looking to blame for the problem of the day. With all that history it isn’t a surprise they continue to be a target today.
As for it existing on both left and right, stupidity proves itself yet again to know no political persuasion.
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Average Monke
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To use the same exact vernacular, only a 'small minority' of Palestinians have been killed, which is a far cry from 'slaughtering the lot of them'.
#Ditto.
GroundPounder
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I've got bad news for everyone on both sides of this argument. No one alive today will be remembered by anyone alive when there is a resolution. Hate and discontent has the same half life as of Carbon-14.
Take it to the bank.
Take it to the bank.
Did you understand my point?
Average Monke
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Did you understand mine?
That you didn't like my verbiage and want to play word games vice actually talk about the substance of my points?
Average Monke
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So that would be a no... My point is that the premise of your analogy is flawed doesn't accurately describe what is happening in Gaza. Thus, any conclusion you would draw from your hypothetical is pretty irrelevant. I'd argue your verbiage is significantly more biased than it needs to be, that wasn't actually my point.
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
If Israel could ensure that Pk on Hamas = 1.0 and Pk on civilians = 0.0, it would. Unfortunately, Hamas thrives by hiding its militants in populous areas to win the messaging war on social media.
The difference is that Hamas aims to have its Pk on civilians = 1.0, because it seeks to kill every Jewish (and Christian, but that's later) person on the planet. Which is why it launches rockets at public gathering centers like schools, synagogues, etc.
…that people get killed in war? No shit.
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