It's funny in that when I was a stud, I remember thinking..spins, what's the big deal? Even in advanced with T-2's, I don't remember much of anything being that difficult. Now, knowing what I know, I only thought that because I didn't know shit
One of my last IP flights I made the mistake of trusting a stud in a C4586. He had completed PA's and needed a warm-up and the only aero he wanted to do was barrel rolls and wingovers. So I thought, well, he completed the C4500 block so it should be easy. We start the barrel roll, I hang back, he pulls the nose up but doesn't roll. I keep telling him, you need to start rolling....thus the term roll in the manuever barrel roll. At 70 degress nose up, out of airspeed, I thought this is going to be interesting. I let it go out of morbid curiousity but as we all know, the T-34 recovers very easily from just about any OCF regime. Rudder shakers, buffet as he finally rolls, out of airspeed but the nose actually falls through, straight down. He pulls 4 g's at the bottom. Funny that he quietly says to me that wasn't very good, was it? I told him I didn't know what that manuever was, it wasn't a barrel roll but it might have been great for whatever it was. Point is, even when you or they think they know what they are doing, they don't