It's not the USAF or USSF doing that.
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Road to 350: What Does the US Navy Do Anyway?
- Thread starter Randy Daytona
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It's not the USAF or USSF doing that.
Does $150 really move anyone's needle these days?
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
The honest answer as far as I can tell is that Trump is reviving the nuclear cruiser and just calling it a battleship, because Trump needs to maintain his WWF kayfaybe.
I also believe that ASCMs supported by OTHT sensors are the future of blue-water naval combat.
How much driving do you do? Before the Iran war, my family fuel budget was $300 month for local driving on three vehicles (none are extravagant fuel guzzlers). Now it's closer to $500/mo, so yeah, this would move the needle for me for at least a month. All the more so if I were on enlisted pay, and fuel represented a larger fraction of my monthly budget.
My question is, whose budget got robbed for this?
Jaegermeister
SNFO Select
The haha funny answer I'd say would be F/A-XX
No one had their budget robbed--it's from their aid society, similar to Navy Relief.
exNavyOffRec
Well-Known Member
Well several years ago that would get a person to spend 6 songs worth of time with you in a place with brass poles that you didn't want to see with the lights on.
Well it’s the Relief Society, so nobody in DoD.
During my DIVO tour, the number of Sailors I saw getting the "$500 help with Christmas gifts loan" from NMCRS that then got turned into "grants" the following month because they made up some BS about being unable to pay was large enough that I haven't donated to NMCRS since. I literally was overhearing some of our Sailors talking about exactly what to say to get it turned into a grant.
Seeing this gas thing too would piss me off if I was donating to AF Relief Society or whatever it is.
I don't mind helping the troops out - plane tickets back home for a soon-to-be death in the family kind of thing I'm all about NMCRS helping - but the "Gift Grants" and "Here's a random $150," no... learn to budget better guys. Half of you drive nicer cars than I do anyway.
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Your point being?
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
I have a hard time understanding the justification for the Navy and Marine Corps Relief Society.
Active duty servicemembers statistically make 80-90th percentile incomes for their age and education.
There are outliers of families who enlist with a wife and kids, but they qualify for federal and state social programs.
Yes, military leaders sometimes put out info about their respective service’s relief societies. You understand those are not run by DoD, right? They’re 501(c)(3) non-profit organizations.
Interesting take from Ryan Szymanski. One of the big items is the sustainment in both strike and defense that a big ship can provide while smaller ships run out of missiles and/or fuel and must retire from the area, although perhaps the reload capability of VLS cells at sea will become normalized and alleviate that concern. And yes, the original design only shows 128 VLS cells, but the volume of the much bigger ship allows for growth, especially if the helicopter facilities are deleted.
As Spekkio mentioned above, and I wondered about a decade ago in Ship Photo of the Day, would we see a return to non-aircraft carrier capital ships when technology improved? The carrier replaced the battleship 85 years ago when airplanes could outrange guns - have/will we reached the stage where hypersonic missiles and cruise missiles turn the table? And if not this “battleship”, is there a place for a 20,000 - 25,000 ton large cruiser?
If the concern is sustained strike capacity, a carrier does that far better than the proposed BBG(X) design, which offers only a 33% increase in VLS cells over a modern DDG.
This whole program seems like a nightmare intentionally packed with everything the Navy does wrong in acquisition: an unclear purpose, untested technology, ludicrous cost, and a design that worsens the Navy’s existing manpower problems, especially if they're seriously considering a nuclear power plant.