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Navy Dedicated SAR Squadrons
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Pic looks wonky - from uniform colors, no wetsuit/fins, and hoist looks non-standard.
To Grizz’s point - these stories are covered. Problem with many NHA stuff is you can’t exactly talk about many of the current events or some events as far back as OIF due to classification.
To Grizz’s point - these stories are covered. Problem with many NHA stuff is you can’t exactly talk about many of the current events or some events as far back as OIF due to classification.
That picture is pretty impressive when you think about it. It even got the side number correct for the coast.
Still, it has some major issues. Besides the hoist and uniforms, there's no seam on the Hyd bay door and it's missing the Interconnecting Box (you can see the fake stream of rivets behind the pilot's door where there wouldn't be any). I'm also dubious about whether a Bravo would have fisheyes in 1991. @robav8r may have more insight, but whenever I would look at the data plates on Block 1s, they seemed to have 1992 build dates or later and I wouldn't think the "Block .75" upgrades would have hit the fleet until after the Block 1s started hitting the line.
Still, it has some major issues. Besides the hoist and uniforms, there's no seam on the Hyd bay door and it's missing the Interconnecting Box (you can see the fake stream of rivets behind the pilot's door where there wouldn't be any). I'm also dubious about whether a Bravo would have fisheyes in 1991. @robav8r may have more insight, but whenever I would look at the data plates on Block 1s, they seemed to have 1992 build dates or later and I wouldn't think the "Block .75" upgrades would have hit the fleet until after the Block 1s started hitting the line.
I sent the pic to a retired AWCS that was with me in 40/48, now working in Owego. I'll find out . . . .
The rescue hook looks a little sketchy as well . . .
Did a little checking around. While @ChuckMK23 is probably dipped in a bit of AI, it is an actual event.
Helicopter Anti-Submarine Squadron Light 44 (HSL-44) Detachment 8 (HSL-44 DET 8 ) and SEAL Team 2 rescue of USAF Maj. Jon Ball while deployed aboard the USS Nicholas (FFG-47) in the Persian Gulf during Operation Desert Storm…23 January 1991.
When the pilot was shot down, an orbiting AWACS monitored his Mayday call and notified the JRCC, who tasked the mission to the US Navy. The Navy RCC launched an SH-60B, call sign Magnum 46 from HSL-44, on combat recovery duty in the northern Gulf area. Two USMC AV-8s were diverted to provide escort. Locating the survivor, the helicopter dropped two SEALs who rescued the pilot.
Helicopter Anti-Submarine Squadron Light 44 (HSL-44) Detachment 8 (HSL-44 DET 8 ) and SEAL Team 2 rescue of USAF Maj. Jon Ball while deployed aboard the USS Nicholas (FFG-47) in the Persian Gulf during Operation Desert Storm…23 January 1991.
When the pilot was shot down, an orbiting AWACS monitored his Mayday call and notified the JRCC, who tasked the mission to the US Navy. The Navy RCC launched an SH-60B, call sign Magnum 46 from HSL-44, on combat recovery duty in the northern Gulf area. Two USMC AV-8s were diverted to provide escort. Locating the survivor, the helicopter dropped two SEALs who rescued the pilot.
The op-tempo and combat losses are being way under reported. ANG and Reserve units especially are reported at near breaking points. Pilots especially are resigning in protest because of the strain. The services are unable to stop-loss since (from the way it is explained to me) would require acknowledgement that this is a war.
Stories of experienced folks with less than 3 years time in grade saying enough.
Ohio Governor getting involved demanding units return from deployment asap.
Iran's capabilities are overwhelming us still. Backstopped by Russian technical expertise.
Guard and Reserve guys giving Navy Growler folks high praise in protecting tanker, AWACS, and transport assets.
Come on Chuck, that’s a bit overblown. While I agree that this “war of choice” has been mostly aimless, I rather doubt we are at the breaking point. We’re fewer than 110 days into this mess, have suffered a whole 15 KIA, and the troops are already worn out? Are you really saying that Iran has overwhelmed CENTCOMs forces despite the fact we haven’t lost a single major surface asset? I also have to question your statement about Russian “technical expertise.” They can’t even keep Ukrainian drones out of Moscow now, so I hardly think they are keeping their first string active in Iran while facing close to a million killed and wounded in Ukraine. I live about 10 miles from a major ANG tanker base and know a host of aircrew who routinely deploy from there, and none complain about being worn out and ready to quit. As for Ohio’s governor, his call was for a return of guardsmen deployed to D.C.
On the other hand, if you’re right, we might as well save some cash, shut down 80% of our military capacity (because clearly we can’t do “hard”) and tell China, “Fuck it, you take over.”
Listen I know pilots love to complain. Plenty of hyperbole. Last weekend was a big drill weekend on both the Guard and Reserve side and I heard an earful. I don't pretend to understand all the context - but O-4's and O-5's walking and and quitting rather than deploying down range again is definitely a thing. Giving up a retirement grade. Also being deployed enough to cause strife with airline's mil leave policy. Or simply being burned out. And the danger at the multitude of exped air fields is also real. Crews sleeping in tents is real vs hotels is causing friction. Jets are being blown up in place in revetments via drones or hypersonic ordnance as well as the ongoing SAM threat. For Guard and Reserve folks I heard a lot of genuine "I did not sign up for this" - meaning - "call it a no shit war or send me home".