• Please take a moment and update your account profile. If you have an updated account profile with basic information on why you are on Air Warriors it will help other people respond to your posts. How do you update your profile you ask?

    Go here:

    Edit Account Details and Profile

1,001 questions about the ASTB (post your scores & ask your questions here!)

sawyer_719

New Member
I qualified for ISEL and was wondering if I have to specifically ask my recruiter to apply through the ISEL process or is it just whenever you submit your package that it will go through the ISEL route?
It could be an obvious answer, but I appreciate the help anyway.
 

FormerRecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
I qualified for ISEL and was wondering if I have to specifically ask my recruiter to apply through the ISEL process or is it just whenever you submit your package that it will go through the ISEL route?
It could be an obvious answer, but I appreciate the help anyway.

It’s a secret buzzword you have to whisper to your recruiter.

For real, just ask them. Do you fear they’re going to tell you to pack sand otherwise?
 

jackfruit

New Member
Hello all, first time post here. Been lurking for months as I am looking to take the ASTB here shortly. Yesterday I got my X52 to practice on. Used the search bar and found the zips and deadzones/maps people claim to be good for practicing for the test on Jantzen's site.

With that being said, I'm running on 6000 min deadzone and 32000 max. With these settings does anyone else feel like it's impossible to trace the target? It feels as if the stick doesn't respond to any small input, then all of a sudden it overshoots for the moon, impossible to make small adjustments.

I know my hand-eye coordination isn't absolutely terrible as I was getting 50% on the ASTB Prep App (with my fingers) and low 50s on the Jantzen site with a keyboard and mouse although I know it's different. If this is how it truly should feel, then I will work through it. Just looking for some personal opinions as I was shocked at how the HOTAS behaved. Thanks in advance.
I am also having this problem (joystick not responding much to small input but sling-shotting outside a certain threshold). Does anyone have input on whether the test is really like this? Or is there a way to fix it for sim practice?
 

LSHD4

New Member
I am also having this problem (joystick not responding much to small input but sling-shotting outside a certain threshold). Does anyone have input on whether the test is really like this? Or is there a way to fix it for sim practice?
Since I posted this, I've been practicing A LOT (maybe nearly 15-20 sessions every single night in a row before bed for 2-3 weeks) and I can say the sling-shotting thing has toned down. I also changed the deadzones to 3000 since I saw that's what some people were using which helped a little bit. Everything here I've seen so far says the actual test is much smoother thankfully. My advice is to practice as much as you possibly can. Run throttle alone, then stick, then combine the two. Then just repeat until you can't anymore. I've been doing dozens everyday for weeks and I went from 180's down to 110-130 on the Jantzen Sim. so I'm getting there. You will literally feel like the biggest bag of turd (my experience lol) with how much you suck and how high your scores are, but just be patient and thug it out.
 

Nutnado

New Member
Since I posted this, I've been practicing A LOT (maybe nearly 15-20 sessions every single night in a row before bed for 2-3 weeks) and I can say the sling-shotting thing has toned down. I also changed the deadzones to 3000 since I saw that's what some people were using which helped a little bit. Everything here I've seen so far says the actual test is much smoother thankfully. My advice is to practice as much as you possibly can. Run throttle alone, then stick, then combine the two. Then just repeat until you can't anymore. I've been doing dozens everyday for weeks and I went from 180's down to 110-130 on the Jantzen Sim. so I'm getting there. You will literally feel like the biggest bag of turd (my experience lol) with how much you suck and how high your scores are, but just be patient and thug it out.
I'm in a similar boat. I've been keeping a log book tracking scores, difficulty, audio cue or emergency training, time, and any notes on why I think I did better on some runs than others. Do you know what we should be shooting for score wise in the sim? I'm averaging in the 140's on max difficulty for 2 minutes while only missing 1 or 2 audio cues. I'm just trying to be patient and thug it out like you said.
 

Kodiak_AZ

New Member
Anyone run into an issue with creating a compass out of scrap paper in the actual test for terrain ident? I have started figuring out how to use this method, but don't want to handicap myself if its not allowed during the test.
 

FlyJ32

Member
I'm in a similar boat. I've been keeping a log book tracking scores, difficulty, audio cue or emergency training, time, and any notes on why I think I did better on some runs than others. Do you know what we should be shooting for score wise in the sim? I'm averaging in the 140's on max difficulty for 2 minutes while only missing 1 or 2 audio cues. I'm just trying to be patient and thug it out like you said.
I took the ASTB less then two weeks ago and got an 8 on PFAR. Just for reference, I was consistently hitting around 140-150 on hard mode in the Jantzen sim in the week leading up to the test. I did about 30 minutes everyday for 3 weeks, and gradually got better. The dichotic listening is also critical. I got all of them right which must have helped my PFAR. Hope this helps!
 

LSHD4

New Member
I took the ASTB less then two weeks ago and got an 8 on PFAR. Just for reference, I was consistently hitting around 140-150 on hard mode in the Jantzen sim in the week leading up to the test. I did about 30 minutes everyday for 3 weeks, and gradually got better. The dichotic listening is also critical. I got all of them right which must have helped my PFAR. Hope this helps!
Great score! How did you do on the UAV and Terrain portion?
 

LSHD4

New Member
I'm in a similar boat. I've been keeping a log book tracking scores, difficulty, audio cue or emergency training, time, and any notes on why I think I did better on some runs than others. Do you know what we should be shooting for score wise in the sim? I'm averaging in the 140's on max difficulty for 2 minutes while only missing 1 or 2 audio cues. I'm just trying to be patient and thug it out like you said.
Honestly if you're scoring that with DLT practice and 2 minute durations you're probably better off than I am. I've been practicing without the DLT for now while I perfect my HOTAS skills. With that being said, I've read a lot of posts, gouges, and study guides saying that they were averaging low 100s and were getting good scores. As FlyJ32 said, he was getting 140-150 and got an 8 PFAR so anything 100-140 should be good.
 

FlyJ32

Member
Great score! How did you do on the UAV and Terrain portion?
Thanks! I got all of the UAV right, averaging about 1.5-1.6 seconds, using the compass trick. I averaged consistently 20/20 right on the prep app at about 1.1-1.2 seconds, so keep in mind that it will be a little slower on the actual test when you have to use a mouse. For Terrain ID, it doesn’t actually tell you if you got it right or not, but after practicing a lot on the app, you kind of know to yourself if you got it right. I used the pencil trick, and am pretty positive I got all 18 right, averaging about 10 seconds. On the app I would always get 18/20-20/20 in about 10-12 seconds, but the test was actually easier than the app for this.

Again there are different factors that play into PFAR that the Navy don’t tell us, but I’m sure these aspects of the PBM are weighted heavily. Let me know if you have anymore questions, and feel free to dm me.
 

Benlee2

New Member
Ive seen alot of talk about the Jantzen sim and so I picked up the x52 like alot of people on here. I was able to get my throttle working for the sim but cant get the stick to work at all. Am I missing something? I used one of the zip files that was recently shared but only getting the throttle to respond. Any help or insight would be great. Thanks
 

LSHD4

New Member
Does anybody know good ways to practice geometry for the test? Don't see any geometry in any the drives, so I started Khan Academy. I would still like to know how everyone else practiced just incase there's another way. Thanks.
 

ChillBeast69

Well-Known Member
I am also having this problem (joystick not responding much to small input but sling-shotting outside a certain threshold). Does anyone have input on whether the test is really like this? Or is there a way to fix it for sim practice?
I think that was the way it is, it is not a linear acceleration from small inputs to large
 

Nutnado

New Member
Thanks! I got all of the UAV right, averaging about 1.5-1.6 seconds, using the compass trick. I averaged consistently 20/20 right on the prep app at about 1.1-1.2 seconds, so keep in mind that it will be a little slower on the actual test when you have to use a mouse. For Terrain ID, it doesn’t actually tell you if you got it right or not, but after practicing a lot on the app, you kind of know to yourself if you got it right. I used the pencil trick, and am pretty positive I got all 18 right, averaging about 10 seconds. On the app I would always get 18/20-20/20 in about 10-12 seconds, but the test was actually easier than the app for this.

Again there are different factors that play into PFAR that the Navy don’t tell us, but I’m sure these aspects of the PBM are weighted heavily. Let me know if you have anymore questions, and feel free to dm me.
Hey FlyJ32, which prep app are you using? Is it the one that cost $30 by Alex Hastings? Also, thank you guys for the reassurance about the test scores.
 
Top