For civilians -- 'shoot to stop' the attack is the operative phrase ... even if it takes an entire magazine to 'stop the attack'.
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12 Dead, 31 Wounded @ FT HOOD
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For civilians -- 'shoot to stop' the attack is the operative phrase ... even if it takes an entire magazine to 'stop the attack'.
QuagmireMcGuire
Kinder and Gentler
... in the current hunt/takedown of the SEA-perp who shot and killed the Seattle cop on Halloween night ... yesterday (right after the cop/Army vet's memorial service) SEA SWAT served the 'suspect' w/ a search warrant -- he pulled a gun -- SWAT took him down w/ a head shot, amongst others ....
The only problem is: he survived.
I didn't know that they had managed to shoot him. I was on the train when a couple of city employees were talking about how the Seattle Police, King Co. Sheriff, Des Moines Police, and the Renton Police had all responded.
FlyingOnFumes
Nobel WAR Prize Aspirant
For civilians -- 'shoot to stop' the attack is the operative phrase ... even if it takes an entire magazine to 'stop the attack'.
I vaguely remember hearing something to the effect of: In law enforcement, you shoot to KILL, because you are often operating in close quarters. In the military, you should to wound (if you can) because for every guy who gets wounded, it takes out 3 other guys out of action to take care of him. Is there any merit to that rumor?
They got him?! That's great! I hadn't heard that yet. I hate not being able to get the local news from back home.Well ... no one will ever admit it, but here's an example:
... in the current hunt/takedown of the SEA-perp who shot and killed the Seattle cop on Halloween night ... yesterday (right after the cop/Army vet's memorial service) SEA SWAT served the 'suspect' w/ a search warrant -- he pulled a gun -- SWAT took him down w/ a head shot, amongst others ....
The only problem is: he survived.
Next week's schedule for SEA SWAT: more time at the range.
Des Moines ... Renton .... high school memories at their finest. Now you're just tryin' to get me excited, aren't you???
Once the call went out on the radio/scanners -- over 50 LEO and fire department vehicles responded and arrived at the apartment complex location in Tukwila ...
QuagmireMcGuire
Kinder and Gentler
They got him?! That's great! I hadn't heard that yet. I hate not being able to get the local news from back home.
You missed the surprise thunder and lightening show of the last few days.
Will be home for Christmas! Hoping for another White Christmas this year!
(Sorry for the threadjack...!)
Clux4
Banned
I think you're getting the picture.This stuff is way, way above both of our paygrades - as an officer AND as a civilian. We shouldn't criticize things we have very little grasp of based on having 5% of the facts that The Man has in front of him. That's good advice for all you new JOs headed for the fleet. You will all come across policies and decisions that make absolutely no sense to you and you will say WTF? Just know that most of the time, there's a method to the (apparent) madness and the guys in charge know what they're doing.
Brett
I disagree. Not all the policies have a rhyme or reason. People drive policies and sometimes their self interest dictates. For the average JO, your answer will suffice.
QuagmireMcGuire
Kinder and Gentler
Will be home for Christmas! Hoping for another White Christmas this year!
Dang you. Dang you to heck. Now, it is snowing in the Cascades.
Maybe I'll try that new thing they call snowboarding.
Well ... no one will ever admit it, but here's an example:
... in the current hunt/takedown of the SEA-perp who shot and killed the Seattle cop on Halloween night ... yesterday (right after the cop/Army vet's memorial service) SEA SWAT served the 'suspect' w/ a search warrant -- he pulled a gun -- SWAT took him down w/ a head shot, amongst others ....
The only problem is: he survived.
Next week's schedule for SEA SWAT: more time at the range.
That's awesome news, this is the first I am hearing of it as well (why do I trust news from AW's more than TV?) I'm waiting to hear whether this was a gang-initiation (my guess) or not. And whether it was related to the 4 cars burned the other month...
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
The schmuck who did this was a Major, which pretty much defeats the whole "E7 and above" argument. Also, do you really think that a 22 year old O-1 is more mature than a 27 year old E-3? Maturity has much more to do with age and upbringing than rank.
I can't remember any instances E1-E3s going on base to shoot up everyone in sight.
Taken from the article:
"The father of Tim Brenton, the officer investigators say Monfort killed Oct. 31, told Q13 Fox he'd like to have five minutes with the man who killed his 39-year-old son in cold blood."
I say they give the father that chance. In fact lock the murderer in a room with the murdered cops father and the rest of the cops family. Same goes for Hasan. Lock him in a room with the victims loved ones. Let them deal out their own justice. Seems only fair.
Well, that's clearly not going to happen. Once the guy is in custody, you kind of have to let the justice system run its course.
Brett