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53's at Republic Airport, NY
- Thread starter zuggerat
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zuggerat said:
What the hell kind of sense does that make? Anyone else here disturbed by that? :icon_tong There are very few things that make me want to run a mile, let alone 3. Must be why I'm in the Navy.
zuggerat said:it means it was exciting and motivational to watch fly over head... was that so hard to derive? jeeeezzzzz
Nah, I just meant about the pullups. Just joshing ya dude. Everytime one of those takes off or comes in to land here at NASCC I always stop and watch, impressive helos.
phrogpilot73
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Nice pics of the $hitter externalling an F-15. Notice the modex - EH. That's an HMM-264(REIN) CH-53E from LF6F 1-03. Went on deployment with those guys. The big deck headed to Florida, and the little decks went to Moorehead City. That's when the 53 externalled the F-15 in Florida. Still not as sexy as those Phrogs they're landing behind...
Cyclic
Behold the Big Iron
phrogpilot73 said:
Ohhh Phrog......I guess it's true what they say, beauty is on the eye of the beholder!!!!
mkoch said:
Not quite, last 53's to come out of the production line are less than 2 or 3 years old, the MH-53E's are the ones that last came out of the line in 96-97.
And yes....it is the baddest non "A" helo ever built....
ChuckMK23 said:
Definitely better avi suite. As far as op capability, it depends what you're doing. I work with a lot of former Pave guys, and they love the nav capability, but all say that the J is extremely underpowered. I'll pick the USAF to snoop and poop, but if I want to carry a lot of crap to a zone, call the USMC and the CH-53E.
zuggerat said:
Add CSAR etc.
But the kicker with the Pave is it's a true all weather aircraft with heads down terrain avoidance features. There aren't many terrain, weather, illumination scenarios that would cause then to abort a mission wth this aircraft. But it's also very very labor intesive aircraft to fly and between the two pilots and FE, everyone is busy doing something.
Not saying the CH-53E isn't capable, it is but the Pave Low is a ighly tuned/specialized aircraft for high threat / high risk scenarios.
And by the way, they are babied - I mean immaculate looking aircraft - inside and out.
CSAR/PJ insert is definitely a tertiary mission with 53Js. The USAF 53s are SpecOps "infil/exfil" birds. The HH-60 PaveHAWKS do the CSAR, para-rescue bit. The USAF is eager to replace the 53, as it is definitely showing its age.
Ryoukai
The Chief doesn't like cheeky humor...at all
If you like seeing -53's fly around, come to Hawaii sometime. You can see the Marines hotdogging and show boating all over the place. I can't say I know the rules to their game, but from what I've seen it appears to be, "who can fly the lowest and not hit anything". "Anything" includes such items as buildings, cars on the freeway, the ocean...MY FREGGIN' HOUSE WHEN I'M TAKING A NAP.