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AF vs. Marines

HH-60H

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HS has 3 ground officers and approx 22 pilots. The 3 ground billets are MMCO, MCO, and AMO.
 

Gatordev

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That must be a helo thing, then, because HSL is the same downstairs. We might also have an LDO as First LT, too.
 

kmac

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NavyVance (which is an oxymoron), what is the relevancy of recruitment source?
 

NavyLonghorn

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If you go back to the origonal question, the person asking is a college grad (off the street). Since I am Navy, and went to Vance when I made this name.. I am Navy Vance. Anything else?


They have plenty of ROTC kids get pilot slots too, but all the OTS guys were either reserve, guard, or transfers from other officer communities.
 

zippy

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There were 4-5 Air Force pilots in my API class who went through OTS, and they were not Reserve/ANG. Perhaps the AF uses OTS as a suplimental pilot source.
 

eddie

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zippy said:
There were 4-5 Air Force pilots in my API class who went through OTS, and they were not Reserve/ANG. Perhaps the AF uses OTS as a suplimental pilot source.
From what I understand (the AF was the first place I looked when I decided to seriously consider military aviation), OTS takes very few pilots from off the street.

http://balder.prohosting.com/live2fly/

This guy came from off the street...
 

Steve Wilkins

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DocT said:
Maybe he was really good at volleyball. I heard they play that at OTS.
Maybe, but don't they play a lot of badminton at TBS?
 

zab1001

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zippy said:
There were 4-5 Air Force pilots in my API class who went through OTS, and they were not Reserve/ANG. Perhaps the AF uses OTS as a suplimental pilot source.

There was recent thread over at baseops.net discussing the use of OTS as an "officer faucet". From what I gathered, when Academy or AFROTC numbers projections aren't meeting forecasted needs, they open more OTS slots to "off the street" guys.

I'd post a link, but my coffee is getting cold.
 

ip568

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I started out in AFROTC in college, with the goal of becoming a navigator. I worked hard and got "promoted" within ROTC. At the end of my freshman year I applied to take the nav aptitude test and was not allowed to because I wore glasses, despite that not being mentioned as a problem when I joined ROTC.

During my junior year I applied to the surface Navy. No go -- glasses. I then applied to the Coast Guard. No go -- glasses. One day Naval Air came to campus and I was sort of mooning around the display when an ENS (on recruting duty waiting to start flight school) said 'hi.' We started to talk and I told him I was working toward my private pilot's license and naval aviation looked like great duty, but since I wore glasses I realized that I couldn't qualify as a Navy navigator. He said, 'well, take the test; what have you got to lose?'

So I did well on the flying aptitude test (despite my major being Anthropology) and then I went to NAS South Weymouth for my flight physical and they said 'sorry, your vision is above the 20/50 minimum.' At that point I started to get pissed at not being accepted by the military despite my wanting to serve so I reapplied. Again, no. So I re-re-applied. At my third flight physical the flt surgeon wrote, "eyes 20/100 but motivation ++++++++++++++++++++++++."

Several months later I was accepted to AOCS. Yes, Vietnam was hot and a lot of jos were being shot down, so they needed more people. But I wound up in the best service after all. My best friend in college finished AFROTC and wound-up in a missile silo at Malmstrom AFB, Montana, a duty he so hated that he was released early after telling his CO what he thought of him and the Air Force in general.

When I think back to AFROTC and compare that with AOCS the superiority of Navy over Air Force is stark.
 
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