You'd think they'd be the same, but sadly they aren't
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Any over under on Boeing delays through 2020?
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They have been bouncing at Moses Lake and internationally for the better part of the last few months. I imagine it isn't going to be long.
House report is out.
"Furthermore, Boeing did not do the “right thing” when it removed references to MCAS from the pilot’s Flight Crew Operations Manual (FCOM). Without question, it was not right for Boeing to fail to share with the FAA Boeing’s own test data showing that it had taken a test pilot more than 10 seconds to respond to uncommanded MCAS activation, and the test pilot believed the condition was “catastrophic[.]” Nor did Boeing do the “right thing” when it became aware that the AOA Disagree alert was not functioning on more than 80 percent of the 737 MAX fleet and then failed to alert the FAA, its customers, and MAX pilots while it continued to both manufacture and deliver an estimated 200 airplanes with this known nonfunctional component."
"Furthermore, Boeing did not do the “right thing” when it removed references to MCAS from the pilot’s Flight Crew Operations Manual (FCOM). Without question, it was not right for Boeing to fail to share with the FAA Boeing’s own test data showing that it had taken a test pilot more than 10 seconds to respond to uncommanded MCAS activation, and the test pilot believed the condition was “catastrophic[.]” Nor did Boeing do the “right thing” when it became aware that the AOA Disagree alert was not functioning on more than 80 percent of the 737 MAX fleet and then failed to alert the FAA, its customers, and MAX pilots while it continued to both manufacture and deliver an estimated 200 airplanes with this known nonfunctional component."
From the report...
The Chicago-based aerospace giant...
Chicago is where money people are, not engineers. The priorities were set when they moved the headquarters.
From the article linked above:
"House Democrats issued a sharply worded report revealing new details of how the combination of Boeing Co. design errors, lax government oversight and lack of transparency..."
Curious why this is an even remotely partisan issue. It shouldn't be, in my opinion. ?
"House Democrats issued a sharply worded report revealing new details of how the combination of Boeing Co. design errors, lax government oversight and lack of transparency..."
Curious why this is an even remotely partisan issue. It shouldn't be, in my opinion. ?
To sorta take on what @taxi1 wrote and twist it around, it's a legislative branch document, not an SAE article. The House is where the money people are...
I'm kinda mixed on this blowing up into a Congressional thing. Boeing is one of the crown jewels of the private~ish aerospace industry (is "crown" jewel an appropriate term in a constitutional republic??) and a certain level of government oversight of public safety is part of what keeps the wheels turning, not stifling governance but not too hands-off either. I'm curious to read this full report (later today).
Indeed. Congress is not the proper venue for more than simple oversight and fact finding. While it appears that there was undue influence and back scratching between the FAA and Boeing, it can't compare to the influence lobbyists and money has on congress. Not like congress can get safety regulation right. Don't forget the last time congress got involved in aviation regulation, we got Part 117 rest rules. While most folks agreed the rest rules required updating, using the Colgan crash for dramatic effect and pressure from ALPA congress made sure the FAA came up with what become Part 117. It is a mess. Truly stupid.
Probably just has to do with them being in the majority at the moment, and some reporter trying to manufacture controversy.
Yes, I understand all of this. But nonetheless, it’s more negative publicity for a company trying to get the Max back into the air and their share price headed north . . .
The report is another nothing burger... Aside from the CEO's publicity stunt firing, where he walked with over $60M, was anyone actually held accountable?
Not the 737 but still Boeing. Looks like all 787 Dreamliner production is going to South Carolina.
www.wsj.com
Boeing to Consolidate 787 Dreamliner Production in South Carolina
Plane maker’s move to combine final assembly in North Charleston plant follows sharp decline in demand for wide-body jets amid pandemic
Boeing to Consolidate 787 Dreamliner Production in South Carolina
The plane maker said it is ending production of the popular wide-body jet in the Seattle area after more than a decade and plans to consolidate assembly of the aircraft at its North Charleston, S.C., factory next year.
www.wsj.com
Boeing to Consolidate 787 Dreamliner Production in South Carolina
Plane maker’s move to combine final assembly in North Charleston plant follows sharp decline in demand for wide-body jets amid pandemic
exNavyOffRec
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This is a huge hit for Boeing employees and the entire Everett area.Not the 737 but still Boeing. Looks like all 787 Dreamliner production is going to South Carolina.
Boeing to Consolidate 787 Dreamliner Production in South Carolina
The plane maker said it is ending production of the popular wide-body jet in the Seattle area after more than a decade and plans to consolidate assembly of the aircraft at its North Charleston, S.C., factory next year.
Boeing to Consolidate 787 Dreamliner Production in South Carolina
Plane maker’s move to combine final assembly in North Charleston plant follows sharp decline in demand for wide-body jets amid pandemic
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Well, not so much the Boeing employees in SC.
exNavyOffRec
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very true