Yeah, I thought I'd mention it though. I spent a few years at community college and the teachers would put books on reserve since not everyone could afford them. They also taught us stuff like buying, photocopying, and returning >_>
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Yeah, I thought I'd mention it though. I spent a few years at community college and the teachers would put books on reserve since not everyone could afford them. They also taught us stuff like buying, photocopying, and returning >_>
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kelleapoore
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My question goes outside of the pilot category, but does anyone know how competitive it is to become an EOD Tech? I'm currently studying for the ASTB, and I'm also working with a trainer to make sure I'm 110% prepared for the fitness aspect.
kelleapoore
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Hmm, I'll have to ask the recruiter I've been speaking with because he said the next board for EOD Tech was in Feb. Thanks for your info.
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Ok I just took the OAR test and got a 37 which is horrible. My OR told me that the score is just passing.
I felt very strong on the reading and Mechanical part of the test.
In the math part is where I struggle.
This is what I used for my study:
Arco 8th edition Officer Candidate Test ISBN-10:0-7689-2794-3.
Military Flight Aptitude Test 7th edition ISBN-10:0-7689-2793-5.
The marine gouge that its floating around.
The study guide word document that its floating around.
My toughs are the following after taking form 4:
Arco books combine covered a total of 6 questions (3 for math and 3 for mechanic)
The marine gouge covered 1 question (which is also covered on the arco)
The study guides and .pdf's floating around are a joke they are very easy compared to the real test, even compared to the arco books.
I think that the ASTB tests have been updated and made harder since they are more applicants than before. (can someone confirm this)
In order to help future OCS candidates we should all input what we can remember from the test. (preferably if you took the test from May 09 to today) This would help create an updated study guide.
After I completed my test I went to my car and wrote as much as I could remember. I will be posting withing the following days an updated study guide.
As far as I go, I'm retesting in 31 days.
Any help besides the gouge found in here would be appreciated .
I just order ARCO GRE/GMAT Math Review 6th to see if more of the problems I miss on test are shown on the book.
Any one else took form 4?
I was told that the score I got is good for marines is that true?
Also my OR suggested to submit with those low scores to see what happens, should I retest or submit?
Have a nice one guys.
Ok I just took the OAR test and got a 37 which is horrible. My OR told me that the score is just passing.
I felt very strong on the reading and Mechanical part of the test.
In the math part is where I struggle.
This is what I used for my study:
Arco 8th edition Officer Candidate Test ISBN-10:0-7689-2794-3.
Military Flight Aptitude Test 7th edition ISBN-10:0-7689-2793-5.
The marine gouge that its floating around.
The study guide word document that its floating around.
My toughs are the following after taking form 4:
Arco books combine covered a total of 6 questions (3 for math and 3 for mechanic)
The marine gouge covered 1 question (which is also covered on the arco)
The study guides and .pdf's floating around are a joke they are very easy compared to the real test, even compared to the arco books.
I think that the ASTB tests have been updated and made harder since they are more applicants than before. (can someone confirm this)
In order to help future OCS candidates we should all input what we can remember from the test. (preferably if you took the test from May 09 to today) This would help create an updated study guide.
After I completed my test I went to my car and wrote as much as I could remember. I will be posting withing the following days an updated study guide.
As far as I go, I'm retesting in 31 days.
Any help besides the gouge found in here would be appreciated .
I just order ARCO GRE/GMAT Math Review 6th to see if more of the problems I miss on test are shown on the book.
Any one else took form 4?
I was told that the score I got is good for marines is that true?
Also my OR suggested to submit with those low scores to see what happens, should I retest or submit?
Have a nice one guys.
The tests have not been changed for several years. If you go to the NOMI website all of this is explained on there. I think it as updated in 2004 not sure of the exact year, but around there.
I studied all of the information on this website and I feel that the math was very accurate to what was on the actual test. The only thing that I felt was much different was the Mechanical Section. I had test form 5 and a few of the questions on there, I was like WTF? Binary code, pressures of different sized tires and what kind of torque they give. Those are the only two I can remember that I didn't know. The one's that are on the test that you definitely should be familiar with is: Pulley's, Mechanical Advantage, Levers, and circuits. That's just a few that I can remember.
I scored a 49 and am going to stick with that score unless I do not get accepted. The only reason that I believe my score was not higher was because of the time restraints. If I could give any advice would be to really PRACTICE time restricted practice tests.
As far as you submitting with that score depends on how competetive the rest of your pkg is. If you have an awesome GPA, LOR's etc, you might have a chance. I also think it would depend on what program you are applying for. You could always just submit it and continue to study and take the test only when you are fully prepared!
I studied all of the information on this website and I feel that the math was very accurate to what was on the actual test. The only thing that I felt was much different was the Mechanical Section. I had test form 5 and a few of the questions on there, I was like WTF? Binary code, pressures of different sized tires and what kind of torque they give. Those are the only two I can remember that I didn't know. The one's that are on the test that you definitely should be familiar with is: Pulley's, Mechanical Advantage, Levers, and circuits. That's just a few that I can remember.
I scored a 49 and am going to stick with that score unless I do not get accepted. The only reason that I believe my score was not higher was because of the time restraints. If I could give any advice would be to really PRACTICE time restricted practice tests.
As far as you submitting with that score depends on how competetive the rest of your pkg is. If you have an awesome GPA, LOR's etc, you might have a chance. I also think it would depend on what program you are applying for. You could always just submit it and continue to study and take the test only when you are fully prepared!
hey everyone, out there. i figured i'd pipe up since i'm always on here reading all this back-and-forth. i just want to throw a hand out to those who end up not doing so great. i'm sick of reading all this - "i studied for a week and got a 65. geez, do you think that score's ok?" give me a break! i studied my ass off and got a 44, and am really disappointed i have to take it again. some people just aren't good at taking tests - i have a 3.9 GPA from college, so i know i'm no idiot. so for those of you who bomb and don't want to admit it - it's ok! you are not alone!
that said, i also want to thank all of you who participate in these chats and offer help even though you are already done with this ASTB business. you are saints, i tell you! the day i feel sure i never have to take this test again, i want it out of my mind! until then, i appreciate all the info. floating around here.
i'm applying to USNR Intel, so i'm no "airwarrior" or aviation nut. if that makes me the odd (wo)man out, so be it. this is all very helpful, regardless!
that said, i also want to thank all of you who participate in these chats and offer help even though you are already done with this ASTB business. you are saints, i tell you! the day i feel sure i never have to take this test again, i want it out of my mind! until then, i appreciate all the info. floating around here.
i'm applying to USNR Intel, so i'm no "airwarrior" or aviation nut. if that makes me the odd (wo)man out, so be it. this is all very helpful, regardless!
So I took the ASTB last Friday (13Nov09). The verbal was easy, just had to read closely. The Math was not as tough as it appears in the Arco book but please memorize the formulas and the steps to solving the problems. The flight portion was far tougher than I expected. There were questions I didn't even know existed. Study as much as you can and just remember that unless you're a professional pilot, there is no way to know the detailed physics of flight. Just do your best.
There is a website where you can find all the answers and explanations to questions found in the Marine Gouge as well as questions in the Arco book. http://www.navy-officer.com just lick on ASTB and learn all you can on every link there. I discovered this too late.
So after all that? 5/5/6 for a 48 OAR. I want to take it again but I will if I'm turned down for Intel. With my MA in international relations and my MBA, my recruiter feels I'm well positioned for the intel board. Thank you all for your help. I will keep you posted as to my progress. Study hard and Fair Winds, Calm Seas and Semper Fi!!!
There is a website where you can find all the answers and explanations to questions found in the Marine Gouge as well as questions in the Arco book. http://www.navy-officer.com just lick on ASTB and learn all you can on every link there. I discovered this too late.
So after all that? 5/5/6 for a 48 OAR. I want to take it again but I will if I'm turned down for Intel. With my MA in international relations and my MBA, my recruiter feels I'm well positioned for the intel board. Thank you all for your help. I will keep you posted as to my progress. Study hard and Fair Winds, Calm Seas and Semper Fi!!!
machodiesel
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FAA handbook study guide
I have exhausted the search function so I figured I would ask this question here.... Im getting ready for the ASTB and am having trouble the aviation information section. It was recommended that I read the FAA handbook offered by my OSO. http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/aviation/pilot_handbook/
In my attempt to work smarter and not harder, I was wondering if anyone with experience can help guide me with what chapters offered in the handbook would pertain to the test. If I have to read all 17 then so be it, but I would like to save time and study whats pertinent so I can focus on my other weak areas.
Thank you gentlemen
I have exhausted the search function so I figured I would ask this question here.... Im getting ready for the ASTB and am having trouble the aviation information section. It was recommended that I read the FAA handbook offered by my OSO. http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/aviation/pilot_handbook/
In my attempt to work smarter and not harder, I was wondering if anyone with experience can help guide me with what chapters offered in the handbook would pertain to the test. If I have to read all 17 then so be it, but I would like to save time and study whats pertinent so I can focus on my other weak areas.
Thank you gentlemen
Ok, I'm with Claire... I took the test and am an engineering student. Definitely didn't do that great, and was pretty upset. I think it was just a case of test taking anxiety.... getting ready to take it again. It's a bummer to hear about everybody else doing so well, but at least with a low score things can only get better!
Hey everyone. This is my story....I applied for the Navy and a commission in march of 2009. I scored a 43 overall and don't remember my OAR. I was denied a commission and my recruiter put together a reconsideration packet. In order to be reconsidered, I would have to show some sort of improvement in this packet. so I gathered additional O-6's LORS and my recruiter told me to retake the test. Guess what I scored a 39 EVEN LOWER. Well to make a long story short, we went ahead and submitted the packet anyway. THey lost my paper work it was never processed. I finally got a call last September from a processor in LA and he apologized for losing my packet and had suggested that i retest. Now this is going to be my Third adn Final time. I've studied for months for both tests and I am super scared of taking this my third adn final time and failing. I don't want this to be the end of my Navy Officer dreams! What do you folks suggest I do. is there any other way I can get a commission. I have a BA in Sociology and Minor in Spanish. My GPA was a 3.2. Do you have any suggestions on how to conquer this test guys? Please advise! Thanks and Happy New Year good luck to all applicants.
BrandonJ1780
Member
Deja vu all over again. Maybe the forum tweaked out and reposted, or you're bleeding your post all over the place. Either way, relax. Good luck on try #3; I'm on #2 myself.
Damn, Gary, I feel your pain. I didn't do too well either (48) but I think the best study guide suggestion I've seen is from "SoCal_Warrior" here it is. If it works, be sure to thank him.
My first ASTB was pencil/paper and I got a 5/5/5/50.
I moved and the new recruiter told me NOT to retake it, but I studied my ass off and on the electronic version I got a 8/9/9/62.
(Oct'09 Boards I was pro-rec'd SNA/SWO/NFO)
STUDY MATERIALS
- ARCO Books (Both of them)
- Navy/Marine Gouges & ASTB Study Materials
- FAA Pilot Manuals - Instruments, Flight Basics, Navigation, Weather
- Google Searches - I studied naval aircraft/ahip designators, basics of flight, mechanical comp, math, naval/aviation history and anything useful that cropped up.
- AirWarriors
- Flashcards
- Note Cards
- I would read the information then write out the important highlights I wanted to remember. Then I would reread the information and study my note cards.
- I actually did any practice exams I found as actual exams and my sister timed and graded them. Then we went over which type of problems I was continually having difficulty with.
- LATHER, RINSE, REPEAT
