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B1 Gear up
- Thread starter mules83
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There have been two gear-ups in B-1's in the last six months or so. One unintentional in Dodge and one intentional (UAE maybe or some other Arab garden spot). The first was VERY unintentional from my sources, the second I saw in AV week and was supposed to be intentional
Intentional for what reason? Inquiring minds want to know......
Im with Flash on this one. I also wanna know after talking with an old hand B-1 driver when the Air Force changed SOP on bringing a Bone in gear up. His comment when I sent him the site was essentially "We didnt do that in my day. If you cant get the gear down you pull the yellow handle and hope your luck improves on things working properly." Then again it might have to do with the fact that he was flying the Bone when its job discription involved mushroom clouds.
Seems kind of silly to sh!t-can a jet for that reason, unless it's specific characteristics cause it to become squirrelly while skidding. Most aircraft will land quite nicely (all things considered) with their gear up and the damage usually isn't that extensive.
Brett
MasterBates
Well-Known Member
T-34Cs handle it well..
Since then, fixed gear for me. Either skids, or non-retractable.
Come to think of it, the -34 is the only retractable gear bird I have flown.
Since then, fixed gear for me. Either skids, or non-retractable.
Come to think of it, the -34 is the only retractable gear bird I have flown.
Id have to talk to him again as to the why and how of it. Im thinking it has something to do with the idea of if the mains dont come down the first thing thats gonna touch is the engines.
Id go with that then. Like I said my guy is a bit dated. Though theres nothing wrong with that (A4's and brethren).
pdx said:
I'll buy that as well. I would never, ever eject my crew from an otherwise perfectly good Prowler, nor is that option even suggested in NATOPS. I would be very interested in the reasoning/justification for ejecting from a B-1 under those circumstances, if that is, in fact, still SOP.
Brett
Tex_Hill
Airborne All the Way!!!
Not trying to compare the two, but the company I work for owns a fleet of Lear 25's. Well, back in October the chief pilot & a young shaved tail landed gear up at Sacramento. The two of them became distracted by another aircraft in the pattern and the co-pilot failed to respond to the chief pilot's "gear down" command. The fact that the chief pilot had the maintenance chief disable the warning buzzer two months earlier didn't help either.
Not trying to compare the two, but the company I work for owns a fleet of Lear 25's. Well, back in October the chief pilot & a young shaved tail landed gear up at Sacramento. The two of them became distracted by another aircraft in the pattern and the co-pilot failed to respond to the chief pilot's "gear down" command. The fact that the chief pilot had the maintenance chief disable the warning buzzer two months earlier didn't help either.
First week I was at Embry-Riddle they had an instructor and a student bring a Seminole in on its belly. Somehow managed to miss all those bells and wistles while doing practice engine outs till the last moment. Says a lot for "The best aviation school in the country" (Yes I hate hearing when people spout off that crap too).