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Blackhawk / CRJ-700 Midair

sevenhelmet

sevenhelmet

Low calorie attack from the Heartland
pilot
Gatordev said:
You're not wrong....and the bizarre fascination with saying everything three times before actually conveying the important part of the message.
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All while sounding like RFK-jr on the radio.

Once during TSTA we did a trial run of "Helo comm Fridays" where we made as many pointless and long radio calls as possible while holding in the stack (not on Tower, we weren't that stupid). It didn't last long, but it was hilarious.
 
croakerfish

croakerfish

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Sure yuck it up but the second we try to pare down the comms everyone freaks out and has no idea what we’re doing like they’ve never even seen a helicopter. You gotta explain the whole thing three times anyway.
 
sevenhelmet

sevenhelmet

Low calorie attack from the Heartland
pilot
croakerfish said:
Sure yuck it up but the second we try to pare down the comms everyone freaks out and has no idea what we’re doing like they’ve never even seen a helicopter. You gotta explain the whole thing three times anyway.
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Nothing but love for you guys... the only real issue I ever took was calls like "Aaaannd tower... uhhh... 702... we're... uhhh... ten miles off your... uhhh... starboard side" (etc.)

We get absolutely crushed from day one in jet land for saying as much as one extra word on the radio- a function of tactical necessity- so it can be hard to listen to folks struggle to think through things with the mic keyed.

In civilian world, it's not nearly as apparent as it was around the Boat, or at NAS Fallon where there is a much more homogenous traffic pattern.
 
IKE

IKE

Nerd Whirler
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sevenhelmet said:
Nothing but love for you guys... the only real issue I ever took was calls like "Aaaannd tower... uhhh... 702... we're... uhhh... ten miles off your... uhhh... starboard side" (etc.)
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Sounds like me stumbling over words the first time I asked out a girl. Maybe the CRUDES helo bubbas are just a bit overwhelmed by the beauty of the stack.

HS beat us into brevity, but it wasn't serious until the fleet tour, and we were always guilty by association when HSL would visit the CVN.
 
JTS11

JTS11

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sevenhelmet said:
it's not nearly as apparent as it was around the Boat, or at NAS Fallon where there is a much more homogenous traffic pattern.
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I dunno, when I landed on the boat, it was pretty straight forward. Cleared to land spot 9. They insisted on putting some dude in a yellow coat making wild arm movements, that I didn't pay attention to, near the landing spot.

"Sir, we need to fold the blades and tail so they can stuff this thing in the aft slash...Harrier Ops are coming up"

"OK, I'll leave the APP up, so you can do this thing that I'll totally fuck up from the cockpit"

<Harrier Ops commence>

Every 30 seconds "check your fucking water switch" 😁
 
Faded Float Coat

Faded Float Coat

Suck Less
pilot
On my last deployment, I took an HSC JO flying in my backseat. He had a good time, we did all the things, but once we got back aboard, his first comment was, "how do you guys do that with so little talking?" I grinned and said, "Well, I hope it's contagious."
 
JTS11

JTS11

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Faded Float Coat said:
On my last deployment, I took an HSC JO flying in my backseat. He had a good time, we did all the things, but once we got back aboard, his first comment was, "how do you guys do that with so little talking?" I grinned and said, "Well, I hope it's contagious."
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I grinned when I saw an old wives' tale being spun on AW.

Are you shitting us all?
 
Faded Float Coat

Faded Float Coat

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JTS11 said:
Sorry, that might have been harsh. Curious how that HSC JO was so wowed by your demonstration of comm brevity that it elicited a grin from you post-flight.
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Because the HSC (and a lesser degree HSM) squadron in that airwing was notorious for blue-on-blue comm jamming... My post was not a comment or reflection of my abilities or that of any other FW aviators in that airwing, but more of an amusing memory that came back to me after reading this thread.

😏
 
Gatordev

Gatordev

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Faded Float Coat said:
On my last deployment, I took an HSC JO flying in my backseat. He had a good time, we did all the things, but once we got back aboard, his first comment was, "how do you guys do that with so little talking?" I grinned and said, "Well, I hope it's contagious."
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Brett327 said:
A properly executed Case I recovery is a thing of beauty.
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I just don't get why it's so hard. For my first deployment, there was some intel that "the bad guys" were using UHF scanners to help locate "the good guys" and route around them so the ship's CO wanted everything to be EMCON. And guess what, it was a non-issue and proved the Cold War planning actually worked. Pass the numbers over Link and then do everything else by deck status light signals. Boom, done.

Probably slightly more challenging on CRUDES now with an ALFs, but still, you should be striving to be able to land in the trap without any help (assuming it's not a crazy sea state).
 
Faded Float Coat

Faded Float Coat

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Gatordev said:
I just don't get why it's so hard. For my first deployment, there was some intel that "the bad guys" were using UHF scanners to help locate "the good guys" and route around them so the ship's CO wanted everything to be EMCON. And guess what, it was a non-issue and proved the Cold War planning actually worked. Pass the numbers over Link and then do everything else by deck status light signals. Boom, done.

Probably slightly more challenging on CRUDES now with an ALFs, but still, you should be striving to be able to land in the trap without any help (assuming it's not a crazy sea state).
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Yep. All of this. It's not difficult. That it elicited some degree of surprise from the guest I took flying was amusing. That's it 🤷‍♂️
 
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