CMV-22B Osprey Rollout

[Pags]

Alright, aero or osprey sages:

Why can’t they put the ejectors at an angle so that the sweet, sweet 500 deg exhaust doesn’t point straight down onto the melting flight deck or dry grass of the Sandwich Isles? Is there some usable thrust from flight mode?

Yes there is thrust in airplane mode. Different solutions were looked at but there are multiple requirements to balance.

 

[DocT]

There are exhaust deflectors that send the exhaust away from the fuselage so you don’t cook people in back.

 

[ea6bflyr]

So is a Tilt-Rotor pilot considered an "Unrestricted" Pilot?

 

[Jim123]

So is a Tilt-Rotor pilot considered an "Unrestricted" Pilot?

The preferred nomenclature is powered lift!

...a term which really triggers a lot of F-35 and Harrier guys who are worried about having the airplane category mins to go to the airlines.

 

[Treetop Flyer]

The preferred nomenclature is powered lift!

...a term which really triggers a lot of F-35 and Harrier guys who are worried about having the airplane category mins to go to the airlines.

The only thing triggering there is the stupidity of the FAA creating that bullshit category and lumping jets in with plopters

 

[ChuckMK23]

First time anyone has seen the paint scheme -

The preferred nomenclature is powered lift!

...a term which really triggers a lot of F-35 and Harrier guys who are worried about having the airplane category mins to go to the airlines.

To the bane of 121 AQP folks.

 

[ChuckMK23]

So does the COD Plopter have an AAR boom?

 

[Pags]

So does the COD Plopter have an AAR boom?

Yes. It's the exact same a/c as the current production MV-22B with the addition of increased fuel capacity, HF radio, some pax related equipment in the back, and different paint.

 

[azguy]

Yes. It's the exact same a/c as the current production MV-22B with the addition of increased fuel capacity, HF radio, some pax related equipment in the back, and different paint.

The Googles say the Osprey-variant has ~15% less range than the C-2. I assume some smart people decided that the difference is negligible for most places the CVN operates, especially with refueling capability.

Also, will be interested to see mission-creep set-in, as the CMV-22B will be capable of operating from many, many more ships than just the Carrier. Off the top of my head, I'd think the LHD/A, LPD, LSD, LCS?, and DDG-1000 are likely NATOPS certified to land an MV-22.

 

[insanebikerboy]

First appearance done. Have they started a CSAR syllabus yet?

 

[hscs]

Nope. Creep will require more a/c and $ - neither of which has been programmed.

 

[Max the Mad Russian]

he Googles say the Osprey-variant has ~15% less range than the C-2. I assume some smart people decided that the difference is negligible for most places the CVN operates, especially with refueling capability.

Two tested C-2As had been AAR-capable. See here

 

[Brett327]

Oh, thanks Max. Not relevant.

 

[Max the Mad Russian]

Oh, thanks Max. Not relevant.

Not at all, indeed. The real reason for C-2A to be refueled is to find a carrier in bad weather, thus its refueling should've been done by organic tankers. Same with CMV-22, I think. If F/A-18E/Fs are capable to refuel Ospreys, it will work. If not - who can be sure KC-130 or USAF bigwing tanker will be allocated to a sole COD Osprey which cannot find the carrier at night in a distant spot of dark ocean?

 

[azguy]

Nope. Creep will require more a/c and $ - neither of which has been programmed.

Yeah, this would be the first time in DOD history of a POR is expected to yield more capability/capacity than initially programmed/spec'd...