Navy Lieutenant turns down IA orders and is threatened with Court-Martial; ends up taking offer of Less Than Honorable Discharge.
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Court-Martial or Less than Honorable Discharge
- Thread starter HeyJoe
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The article said she was 27 but had been in for seven years. That means she graduated early from Stanford. Wonder if this is the case of a wunderkind who'd got everything she ever wanted until now, and then threw a fit. Still, if she really viscerally believes IAs are wrong . . .
First, did she have her head in the sand for oh, about the last 4 years or so? Or did she just think she was immune for some strange reason?
Second, she's chickenshit for not taking it to court-martial if she truly believes IAs are somehow wrong or unethical.
First, did she have her head in the sand for oh, about the last 4 years or so? Or did she just think she was immune for some strange reason?
Second, she's chickenshit for not taking it to court-martial if she truly believes IAs are somehow wrong or unethical.
Hell, I'd love that f'ing IA. SIGN ME UP!
This just pisses me off. Here I am, willing to do whatever it takes to win this damn war, even if it means playing Army for a year, and I can't get an IA. This chick just decides she doesn't want to go because she thinks it isn't fair?!
I have more respect for that Watada guy (which is a negative number, just for the record), at least he had real conviction, even if I think his cause sucked.
We all take an oath, to do what we're f'ing told. I hate my current job, but I show up every day and I put the effort in because I'm told to and I took that oath. I knew going into this that I may not always get to do what I want to do, that's the nature of the beast. The Navy asks of you 1 year in a bad place doing what might be a dangerous and/or crappy job. Sure, it isn't what you signed up for, but what about the poor solider who is on his fourth tour in Iraq? He sure as hell didn't sign up for that any more than you did.
If we all pitch in maybe we can make this damn thing end sooner and we can bring a few more buddies home. One team, one fight.
This just pisses me off. Here I am, willing to do whatever it takes to win this damn war, even if it means playing Army for a year, and I can't get an IA. This chick just decides she doesn't want to go because she thinks it isn't fair?!
I have more respect for that Watada guy (which is a negative number, just for the record), at least he had real conviction, even if I think his cause sucked.
We all take an oath, to do what we're f'ing told. I hate my current job, but I show up every day and I put the effort in because I'm told to and I took that oath. I knew going into this that I may not always get to do what I want to do, that's the nature of the beast. The Navy asks of you 1 year in a bad place doing what might be a dangerous and/or crappy job. Sure, it isn't what you signed up for, but what about the poor solider who is on his fourth tour in Iraq? He sure as hell didn't sign up for that any more than you did.
If we all pitch in maybe we can make this damn thing end sooner and we can bring a few more buddies home. One team, one fight.
What would you say to 508 days in Djibouti? I know people that could make it happen
What would you say to 508 days in Djibouti? I know people that could make it happen
What? P-3s? Da-booty? What?
Oh, she is so heroic! - The Left
What would you say to 508 days in Djibouti? I know people that could make it happen
I hear the DFAC is really good there.
Seriously, I did ask for an IA (more than once) in lieu of the Office Space hell I currently live in. Someone said I was "essential" - which is total BS, since I suck at powerpoint, but I think they wanted me to feel better.
Those who refuse because they're morally opposed to the war I disagree with, but at least have a comprehension of the moral code they think they're observing.
This lady needs a buttstroke to the head. There's no moral rationale for not taking an IA. She just didn't want to do the job.
This lady needs a buttstroke to the head. There's no moral rationale for not taking an IA. She just didn't want to do the job.
I know a few people that have been getting out or retiring for the fear of an IA. WTF?
While I was volun-told to do my IA, I do not regret it. It was a good experience but I don't want to do it again anytime real soon. Been there, done that!
My comments for her: BOO-HOO....SEE YA! Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
-ea6bflyr
While I was volun-told to do my IA, I do not regret it. It was a good experience but I don't want to do it again anytime real soon. Been there, done that!
My comments for her: BOO-HOO....SEE YA! Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
-ea6bflyr
I know a few people that have been getting our or retiring for the fear of an IA. WTF?
While I was volun-told to do my IA, I do not regret it. It was a good experience but I don't want to do it again anytime real soon. Been there, done that!
My comments for her: BOO-HOO....SEE YA! Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
-ea6bflyr
I may be a nobody-butter bar, but at the same time, I agree....it seemed a great situation for her until she actually had to DO something..
To echo your post...."Don't let the door hit you, where the good lord split you..."
On the DFAC note. I've noticed and heard that the DFACs are amazing at the crappiest bases and hardest schools.
I think she completely sucks for what she did, but I wonder what this whole thing is going to do for IAs in general. They've been out there for general knowledge for some time now, but I truly wonder how much the public about them. Do you think the DoD would like it, even today, if there was a front page article in the NYT about how Navy people are being sent to fill Army billets, many of which they are not qualified to do? While this was a sucky way for the issue to be brought to light, and if I were in the LT's shoes I think I just would have sucked it up and took the job, I wonder if her actions will highlight the whole IA problem for the general public?