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NavyOffRec said:
I agree and what gets me and what pisses my wife off is that if people who were sick consistently did the right thing and didn't still go to work and go do other things to expose other people that would have minimized the illness to some extent, when I am sick I don't go to work to be mindful of my coworkers, I don't go see my parents to make sure I don't get them sick.

I hope this COVID-19 issue causes people to think about others when they are ill for the years to come.
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Yeah, there are lots of people who are either irresponsible or are in a position where if they want money they need to go to work.

There's also growing data that shows that a lot more people likely have it than the current active cases, estimates range from 10-50 times higher than current active cases. While this shows that maybe the death rate isn't as high as initially thought it also means that there's a higher risk to the affected population because more people have it than thought and those people are still spreading it around thus further increasing the risk. The only way to effectively reduce that risk is to have everyone chill at home for a few weeks to break the chain. I imagine we'll all end up in some form of lockdown for a three to six weeks to help it burnout and then public health folks can set a fire watch.
 
scoolbubba

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Nasty Flyer said:
you were just complaining that your unit implemented this policy before there was a policy, you’re arguing against yourself.
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For 10% of our people. How are you not understanding my point that it did nothing to help?

This is a full stop/no more community popcorn in the ready room kind of issue, not keep a couple guys who fly a lot behind a locked door away kind of issue.

In any case, you do you. For most of us, this’ll be a cold at the worst. It’s the 5-10% who end up in the ICU that’ll put the screws to our health care system.

I was pretty skeptical at first. Seeing what happened in Italy, a country with twice as many hospital beds per capita as we have and actual numbers being reported that I trust (vice china), I’m significantly less skeptical.
 
TyKing

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NavyOffRec said:
I agree and what gets me and what pisses my wife off is that if people who were sick consistently did the right thing and didn't still go to work and go do other things to expose other people that would have minimized the illness to some extent, when I am sick I don't go to work to be mindful of my coworkers, I don't go see my parents to make sure I don't get them sick.

I hope this COVID-19 issue causes people to think about others when they are ill for the years to come.
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Totally get where your coming from. I hope this all goes away soon. One thing I think we all are forgetting is the situations that people are in right now. It's easy for us to say just stay home when your sick, but say that to the single mom with kids. Who's working a hourly job to put food on the table and keep the lights on. We got schools closing for weeks and stores and resurants closing for weeks. How long can we sustain this I wonder.

I believe all the measure being taken and that will be taken are needed and valid, but I can't sit on my high horse and piss on people for trying to live their lives, especially if their trying to get by with the little resources they have. Like I said, I hope we can beat the virus with the right steps to save lives, but the way we go about this by shutting everything down, won't last for long because people life line are the very things we are restricting.
 
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taxi1

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All this talk about holing up in self-quarantine for the next few weeks reminds me of the punchline about the guy who visits the doctor with a problem (sorry ladies)...

"Nothing much, just watching porn and eating cheetos."
 
Sonog

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UMichfly said:
Sam, sorry brother, I did not intend that to be a faceshot at you in any way. I am just very tired of the conspiracy theories, especially when combined with the false narrative of "it's just the flu" being pushed by the Fox crowd. Now more than ever we need to approach things with science, expertise, and critical thinking, e.g. what Bruin posted. Hopefully folks can gain a little insight from the link I posted in spite of my clumsy delivery.
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I'm going to hop on board the apology train as well. I got caught up in internet anonymity and acted like an asshole rather than creating objective discourse.
 
taxi1

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A cool rule of thumb for figuring out doubling rate is to take the percentage growth and divide it into 70. So if you are earning 10% interest per year on something, you'll double your money every 70/10 = 7 years.

Covid-19 is growing about 20-25% per day right now. That's a big problem.

What really hits it home is this mental exercise. Suppose we lock everything all the way down today, so zero further transmission, and we wait it out, and it results in 120,000 deaths.

If we had started the lockdown yesterday, we’d only end up with 100,000 deaths.

One day’s difference on taking action has a huge impact.
 
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insanebikerboy said:
The bigger problem, if there was a mass influx of people with symptoms, who need assisted ventilation, to a hospital, triage would be a very real thing and would potentially result in many deaths.
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taxi1 said:
When we run out of the ventilators and hospital beds, that death rate goes up fast.
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scoolbubba said:
For most of us, this’ll be a cold at the worst. It’s the 5-10% who end up in the ICU that’ll put the screws to our health care system.
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^^^Spot on. It’s all about “flattening the curve”. We have finite resources to deal with critically ill patients. Not every hospital in your community has an ICU or multiple ventilators to begin with. And for the hospitals with ICU beds: heart attacks, strokes, seizures etc are still coming in their doors.

I’ll put this into another perspective. My crew and I are called to respond to a shooting. On arrival we find a single patient who suffered a GSW to the chest and is not breathing. We will do everything for this patient. However had this been a mass shooting with multiple victims, this same exact patient would be black tagged and we would move on to help others(using START adult triage and simplified explanation). Survivable with surgery, but never made it there because resources were overwhelmed.
 
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