Sweden and their “experiment” has been a topic of conversation on this thread for a while.
Australia and New Zealand have both seemingly had great success.
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Australia and New Zealand have both seemingly had great success.
And before anyone says “Whatever, man. You just paid this guy by looking at his twitter! He’s not an expert! Clickbait!”, allow me to establish his bona fides:
Justin Wolfers - Wikipedia
ABMD
Bullets don't fly without Supply
And before anyone says “Whatever, man. You just paid this guy by looking at his twitter! He’s not an expert! Clickbait!”, allow me to establish his bona fides:
Justin Wolfers - Wikipedia
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I don't trust any man who crosses their legs like that.
J/K
I find it rather odd that he thinks this is strange.
And before anyone says “Whatever, man. You just paid this guy by looking at his twitter! He’s not an expert! Clickbait!”, allow me to establish his bona fides:
Justin Wolfers - Wikipedia
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
Care for acute illnesses is relatively cheap to provide (price gouging on insurance payment schedules for outpatient visits and lab tests notwithstanding). Many hospitals and clinics have even delegated this task to nurses and PAs to further cut costs. Even if every hospital were full right now, they would be losing money on treatment of COVID-19 compared to more lucrative procedures and treatment plans.
And before anyone says “Whatever, man. You just paid this guy by looking at his twitter! He’s not an expert! Clickbait!”, allow me to establish his bona fides:
Justin Wolfers - Wikipedia
We were lucky. By the time our Gov made a move. After sitting on their hands. It wasn't widespread within the community. It was mostly cruise ships and returning travelers. Who mostly went to 14 day isolation. They closed our national and intestate borders. Closed businesses and restrictive stay in place. They are paying compensation for lost jobs of $1,500 a fortnight and the same to self employed, Also to employers, to keep a worker on, if the business has lost 30% trade. They are doing a lot of other stuff to keep social harmony, for those at home. So we are happy having a netflix binge.
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Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
I think an IFR of 0.5 nation wide is way high. 0.1-0.3 is more reasonable. Right now the lower bound based on PFR is 0.3% in NYC but 0.025% nationwide. Also the 50:1 infection to confirmed case ratio estimated from the studies in CA don't hold for NYC - there aren't 15 million people living there. But NY is also more aggressive than CA was at administering testing. The good news in NYC is that if the IFR is 0.3-0.5% their cases and deaths should start to decline sharply as somewhere over 6M people have already been infected and the population will become immune.
Still, the fact remains that based on 1.5x the amount of fatally infected people need inpatient hospital care, the capacity exists unless everyone gets sick at the exact same time.
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I got tested a couple of weeks ago. It was pretty unpleasant, and stung for a few seconds, but I didn't think it was excruciating. The nasal cavity is deeper than we tend to imagine.
Perhaps the key is starting early to either prevent infection or mitigate one before needing critical care
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That is what I have read regarding the treatments of some docs who promote hydroxychloriquine. That is why when I read any report on a study of efficacy, let alone dangers of the treatment, I don't rely on it unless they speak to doses, how soon treatments began, and existing conditions.
