COVID-19

[Flash]

Sweden Bucked Conventional Wisdom, and Other Countries Are Following | National Review

No lockdown, no shuttered businesses or elementary schools, no stay-at-home. And no disaster, either.

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It’s becoming increasingly obvious that for most of the country we vastly over reacted.

Since the number of deaths is appearing to be in line with the predictions at the end of March of 100,000 to 240,000 in this country, with the precautions that were put in place, I am wary of the claims we didn't do the right thing.

 

[Treetop Flyer]

Since the number of deaths is appearing to be in line with the predictions at the end of March of 100,000 to 240,000 in this country, with the precautions that were put in place, I am wary of the claims we didn't do the right thing.

If we arrive at the same result, but only after destroying the economy, how is that the right thing.

 

[Deleted member 24525]

If we arrive at the same result, but only after destroying the economy, how is that the right thing.

so do you honestly think that you would have the same number of deaths locked down versus not locked down?

I agree with you if they are the same then, yes, we should not have locked down.

 

[taxi1]

so do you honestly think that you would have the same number of deaths locked down versus not locked down?

I agree with you if they are the same then, yes, we should not have locked down.

Arguing that either path results in the same number of deaths presumes we won’t come up with a therapeutic drug or a vaccine that greatly reduces the death rate.

 

[Treetop Flyer]

so do you honestly think that you would have the same number of deaths locked down versus not locked down?

I agree with you if they are the same then, yes, we should not have locked down.

That was the entire point of “flattening the curve”

 

[jackjack]

Flattening the curve was to save lives and the health system. Then wait for a vacc wasn't it?
CDC and FEMA think with not following the guidelines, It's going up. Using NYS antibody test, giving 1.4% death rate. This will be 2,800 deaths a day in June and will rise from there. That's 90,000 for June with a flat trajectory, it will be more by the end of June. WWII deaths were 400k

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/04/coronavirus-daily-us-deaths-models-trump-report
As Donald Trump proclaimed success in America’s fight against the coronavirus and continued to push for the US economy to reopen, it was reported on Monday that internal projections show the administration is expecting 3,000 deaths a day by 1 June.
CDC and Fema “forecast about 200,000 new cases each day by the end of the month, up from about 25,000 cases now”

 

[Flash]

If we arrive at the same result, but only after destroying the economy, how is that the right thing.

The point of all the mitigation as to not arrive at the same result but to reduce the fatality rate by not overwhelming the health care system, which seems to be working to a large degree so far.

 

[Ken_gone_flying]

CDC and Fema “forecast about 200,000 new cases each day by the end of the month, up from about 25,000 cases now”

We’ve seen how their initial forecasts and models turned out.

 

[Flash]

We’ve seen how their initial forecasts and models turned out.

The forecast from 31 March has been reasonably accurate thus far.

 

[Treetop Flyer]

The point of all the mitigation as to not arrive at the same result but to reduce the fatality rate by not overwhelming the health care system, which seems to be working to a large degree so far.

Yet we weren’t ever even close to overwhelming the system for the vast majority of the country yet the shutdowns continue. Go back and look. The area under the curve was always the same.

 

[Treetop Flyer]

Flattening the curve was to save lives and the health system. Then wait for a vacc wasn't it?
CDC and FEMA think with not following the guidelines, It's going up. Using NYS antibody test, giving 1.4% death rate. This will be 2,800 deaths a day in June and will rise from there. That's 90,000 for June with a flat trajectory, it will be more by the end of June. WWII deaths were 400k

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/04/coronavirus-daily-us-deaths-models-trump-report
As Donald Trump proclaimed success in America’s fight against the coronavirus and continued to push for the US economy to reopen, it was reported on Monday that internal projections show the administration is expecting 3,000 deaths a day by 1 June.
CDC and Fema “forecast about 200,000 new cases each day by the end of the month, up from about 25,000 cases now”

It was to save lives avoiding overwhelming hospitals, not to hide until a vaccine comes along.

Also there are dozens of studies estimating an IFR well below 1% yet you keep parroting that proudly. Strange.

 

[Flash]

Yet we weren’t ever even close to overwhelming the system for the vast majority of the country yet the shutdowns continue. Go back and look. The area under the curve was always the same.

The shutdowns continue so we don't get to that point in most of the rest of the country.

 

[Treetop Flyer]

The shutdowns continue so we don't get to that point in most of the rest of the country.

And around we go. That’s an idiotic argument when places that didn’t “lock down” also aren’t getting overwhelmed.

 

[jackjack]

It was to save lives avoiding overwhelming hospitals, not to hide until a vaccine comes along.

Also there are dozens of studies estimating an IFR well below 1% yet you keep parroting that proudly. Strange.

It seems Trump thinks it's more than the 1.4% The 200,000 will be 3,000 deaths a day and 1.5%. So there are 3 sources, Trump, NYS and Australia and I'll add New Zealand to the list and make it 4. For a death rate of about 1.5%, but you thinks it's much below 1%. You could put up a credible link about it.

"As Donald Trump proclaimed success in America’s fight against the coronavirus and continued to push for the US economy to reopen, it was reported on Monday that internal projections show the administration is expecting 3,000 deaths a day by 1 June. "
CDC and Fema “forecast about 200,000 new cases each day by the end of the month, up from about 25,000 cases now”

 

[Treetop Flyer]

It seems Trump thinks it's more than the 1.4% The 200,000 will be 3,000 deaths a day and 1.5%. So there are 3 sources, Trump, NYS and Australia and I'll add New Zealand to the list and make it 4. For a death rate of about 1.5%, but you thinks it's much below 1%. You could put up a credible link about it.

"As Donald Trump proclaimed success in America’s fight against the coronavirus and continued to push for the US economy to reopen, it was reported on Monday that internal projections show the administration is expecting 3,000 deaths a day by 1 June. "
CDC and Fema “forecast about 200,000 new cases each day by the end of the month, up from about 25,000 cases now”

Try googling it genius. You were peddling CFR a couple hours ago. Sorry your virus cheerleading isn’t going well.