I think the implicit assumption is "if everyone got the vaccine, we could return to normal." That's what leads to the angst / negative judgment.
Do you think “they”, meaning military leadership, actually cares about this? I’m talking FOGO and SES types. Keep in mind, these are the same geniuses who responded to a disease that disproportionally impacts the overweight by literally shutting down the gyms on base, not allowing people to work out while underway (at all, couldn’t even jump rope in the hangar bay), and making people wear masks if they want to go for a run on base. Their only concern is doing enough CYA to get promoted and/or land that golden parachute job within the military-industrial complex. They don’t care how this whole disaster has impacted the hoi polloi.
Yes.
Maybe not, which might be why no formal policy to relax liberty restrictions for vaccinated personnel has been promulgated, and everyone is still 'welded to the pier' when in port while in HPCON C regardless of vaccination status.
If you're right, then perhaps that is part of the problem. Turning people against each other is just one more negative effect of tying reopening to the success of any attempts to force people to get an EUA vaccine they are not ready to get. And while we wait for that criteria to be met (and assuming it doesn't change again), countless people are suffering irreparable harm due to lockdowns and continues restrictions. All in an effort, as far as I can tell, to protect unvaccinated folks from themselves.
I don’t think I was clear in my previous post - obviously leadership cares about POTUS’ and SECDEF’s policies. My point was that I don’t think some senior Navy leadership either fully understands or actually cares how awful life is under the Page 13. Because we are the ONLY service that has one. Everyone is super scared of another Crozier/Modly incident. People don’t make rank by rocking the boat.
“Walensky added that masks are still recommended for fully vaccinated people attending large outdoor public events, such as concerts or stadiums.
Medieval priest or present-day academic?
“why bother getting the jab if you get so little back? they have taken and taken from your rights and freedoms for a year and now, when we get to the point they promised this would end, they offer you nearly nothing in return.
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Oh. Yeah, I agree. Classic case of rules for thee and not for me.
I think this is splitting legal hairs. What is actually going on is that CO can't cut PO3 Timmy on 5 days of leave out of area because the ship can't spare the additional 14 days of ROM, but he can cut vaccinated PO3 Jones on 5 days of leave who doesn't have to ROM (this ROM guidance comes from NAVADMIN 073/21). It's not the vaccination per se driving the decision at the CO level, but the amount of time the ship can reasonably spare for the sailor (which is still based on vaccination status, but the CO doesn't control that policy...). We also have operational guidance that ships with fully vaccinated crews don't have to wear masks after 24 hours of underway, and that personnel who are vaccinated don't have to ROM for 14 days prior to deployments.
I feel like a "hey, we all know that you don't have to wear a mask to be safe once you've been vaccinated, but since it's not practical (or legal) to check for vaccination status at every private venue we're asking everyone to wear a mask indoors until enough vaccines have been produced so that everyone who wants one can get one. That should occur around June."
Here is the point of fundamentally different philosophies of leadership's role in an all-volunteer military in a free country. One extreme is blind obedience to whatever it is the boss says and wants (for the record, I don't think our flags are like that) and strict discipline. The other extreme is basing all of your decisions on the troops' quality of life, morale, and whatever their latest whims. I do think our flags are leaning too much on their role as passing on orders down the chain of command and not enough on sanity checking those orders or communicating some very valid concerns up the chain.
The troops will grouse about it and then they'll say aye aye, sir, and carry on smartly. But if leadership gives too many dumb orders like this one then when those troops get to the end of their hitches, a lot of them will not re-up... and that will be a leadership failure, in spite of calling it euphemisms like a retention challenge or difficult environment.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch...I wonder what they’ll do to divert attention away from this one?
Cuomo Aides Spent Months Hiding Nursing Home Death Toll (Published 2021)
Aides to the New York governor, Andrew M. Cuomo, repeatedly prevented state health officials from releasing the number of nursing home deaths in the pandemic.www.nytimes.com
