It's about the rate.
I'd wager it costs more time to effectively filter out previously infected people that it does to just vaccinate by risk groups. Also helps close potential gaps and reduce admin and personnel overhead.
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It's about the rate.
I'd wager it costs more time to effectively filter out previously infected people that it does to just vaccinate by risk groups. Also helps close potential gaps and reduce admin and personnel overhead.
Just better and consistent messaging would have helped. No need to expend much energy filtering people out. Just like rushing shots to the military early on was idiotic. People actually at risk waited while we pushed vaccines on the least vulnerable population in the country besides children.
Speaking of messaging, today the CDC “recommends” fully vaccinated people continue wearing masks in malls, salons, and outdoor venues like concerts. Very sciencey.
As to your first point, yes it’s a low incidence rate, but for those people who are affected it’s very real.
As to your second point, the CDC Director must have been speaking in her “personal capacity”. Hmm, never seen this one before...
CDC reiterates guidance on safety of COVID-19 vaccines for pregnant people
More than 100,000 pregnant people in the U.S. have now reported receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.
www.cbsnews.com
I’m also surprised they’re “allowing” this because of the message it sends. Seems like the proof is in the pudding that continuing to mask up post-vaccine has no scientific basis, it’s all about optics. And this is quite the optic.
Looks like Neanderthal thinking is spreading
I would like to remind people that current PCR testing doesn’t actually test for the Cornavirus! So nobody knows who has actually had “Covid-19”
As to your first point, yes it’s a low incidence rate, but for those people who are affected it’s very real.
As to your second point, the CDC Director must have been speaking in her “personal capacity”. Hmm, never seen this one before...
CDC reiterates guidance on safety of COVID-19 vaccines for pregnant people
More than 100,000 pregnant people in the U.S. have now reported receiving a COVID-19 vaccine.
I’m also surprised they’re “allowing” this because of the message it sends. Seems like the proof is in the pudding that continuing to mask up post-vaccine has no scientific basis, it’s all about optics. And this is quite the optic.
Either Vaccines work, or they don't. Pick one. Every American will soon have had the opportunity to get a shot...once that date has passed, kill the mask mandate or continue down this path at the peril of vaccination rates.
I’ll let the big guy field that question. Vaccines absolutely do work*
*but only outside
*and also in a small group
*if in a large group outdoor transmission which we’ve always known was basically nonexistent is suddenly a threat
I hope that clears it up for you and motivates you to get vaccinated now that you see the wonderful freedom of outdoor small groups without a face diaper offered through vaccination.
edit: no word yet on whether our sciencer-in-chief considers a virtual summit a small enough group to go boldly bare faced.
That's not going to happen.
We'll probably not have 60% vaccinated, the way it looks now. There's enough Vax deniers and herd immunity free riders out there.
If we go full open following that, masks retired, what will happen is everyone who isn't vaxxed will get sick pretty much at the same time, but with the more virulent variants floating around. It'd be a huge mess.
The good news is people will be scrambling for vaccines then.
There it is. It will never end for the covid hobbyists and true believers. You can’t do anything or take off your useless mask even if vaccinated. But if you’re not all vaccinated I’ll help (force) you to protect you from yourself because the news said something about scary variants.
Fortunately people are moving on. Taxi1 can be drug along kicking and screaming but it’s happening either way. Take a trip to Texas and witness the open restaurants, bars, venues, and of course the bodies in the streets. Oops just kidding it’s better here than the NE
Either that or they are so butt ugly they don’t want anyone seeing their face.
Speaking of free riders...
Thank you for your service.
Sucks that humans have the instinct to just invent derogatory terms to label people who think differently than they do, instead of try to understand and respect their points of view.
At this point we only have emergency use vaccines, the long term efficacy and side effects of which nobody knows. We are asking a huge percentage of the population to roll the dice and get one of these vaccines in order to hope they get protection from a virus that is basically guaranteed not to hurt them even if they contracted it. People who say no thanks are not the same as those who won't get other (non-emergency use) vaccines because they think Bill Gates is implanting tracking chips in them. They are not science deniers or trying to do any harm to anyone else. They simply are making what they view as the best choice for themselves and their dependents. If the vaccine is really 95%+ effective then everyone who chooses to get it need not fear those who do not, and those who do not are taking responsibility for their own lives and consequences. Those who do get the vax, by the way, also must take responsibility for their own lives and possible negative consequences. As should be everyone's right. Forcing it on anyone takes away that right.
No need to name call or try to shame the "others". Have some respect for the point of view of others, even if you don't agree with it yourself, and stop demonizing each other.
If only the Blue counties would get onboard! My buddy is the Mayor of my small suburb and the fucking county Mayor ain’t budging cause well... science! ?
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He bowls overhand.
The new COVID-19 mask guidelines are functionally not any different from the old ones, just re-worded with a stop light chart to go with it.
I'm more concerned about the implications on military policy; namely, that vaccinations won't relieve the intense liberty restrictions placed on sailors anytime soon.