Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
Fair enough. Does that change the overall point that it's common for government and multiple levels to enact laws and regulations to discourage the behaviors wink outlined?
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You got vaccinated for yourself. You didn’t sacrifice shit. You’re less useful to society than the guy that got actual covid at a party. Don’t hurt your arm patting yourself on the back.
Not saying anything about your point at all as I won't get involved in that discussion.
What was more my point is how often people/media/politicians say "It's not allowed at all" or "Everyone has to get it" or anything absolute when that is not in fact the case.
The only thing I'll say in regards to this topic and even the ones Wink/you mentioned is that I firmly believe we are into the Darwin phase of this event.
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
No, they aren't. In the first case, if the hospital capacity exists then there should be no restrictions or precautions put out at all. In the second case, restrictions and precautions will last indefinitely until the entirety of society is vaccinated or the disease burns itself out.
Have you been living under a rock? Virtually every metric and reporting criteria shifted from fatalities to cases about 9 months ago. No one is even talking about fatalities anymore, particularly the media, because the CFR has plummeted from ~10-15% at the onset of the outbreak to roughly 1-2% over last winter to roughly 0.5% now, a point where it wouldn't make scary headlines anymore because it's on-par with the flu.
The CDC's recommendation to re-instute masks (and the DOD subsequently following suit) is strictly based on cases, not an increase in hospitilazations or fatalities.
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Not just myself. Weird that you can’t understand that.
If the unvaccinated weren’t filling up hospitals and ICUs, we wouldn’t be doing a whole nuther round of restrictions.
We also wouldn’t have the case counts if it weren’t for the unvaccinated pumping it into the population.
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
Citation needed.
The amount of hospitilzations is a tiny fraction of what it was 6 months ago.
Ultimately irrelevant. If we aren't taxing hospital capacity and people are not dying in large numbers, there's no reason to care about COVID case counts any more than there's reason to care about how many people catch a common cold.
But worse than vaccination is being fat. 78% of hospitilazed COVID-19 patients in 2020 were overweight or worse. Put the twinkie down...
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Yet the CDC is telling you that vaccinated people still contract and spread the virus. You did it for yourself. Thank you for your self interest.
Baton Rouge children's hospital nears capacity, braces for surge in Covid cases ahead of school year
A children's hospital in Louisiana is experiencing a wave of Covid-19 hospitalizations as the Delta variant pervades the region.
Inside a Covid I.C.U., Hopes Fade as Patients Surge In (Published 2021)
Doctors and nurses in a Florida hospital thought the onslaught of coronavirus admissions had ended. Now they need more intensive care beds.
"On a crash course": Texas hospitals brace for another COVID-19 surge as delta variant burns through unvaccinated communities
Hospital officials worry that "staggering and frightening" hospitalization rates will push facilities to capacity at a time when staffing is short and workers are exhausted.
www.texastribune.org
Louisiana hospitals prepare for surge of COVID-19 patients
NEW ORLEANS – The latest surge of coronavirus cases is hitting Southern states especially hard. This week, Louisiana reported its highest single-day spike in COVID-19 hospitalizations since the pan…
nypost.com
Hospitals are full as state's covid cases rise by 980 | Arkansas Democrat Gazette
Top health officials in Arkansas warned Thursday of an approaching threat to patients' access to care as the number of coronavirus patients in hospitals rose by double-digits for the 10th day in a row.
www.arkansasonline.com
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
Not one of those yellow journalism articles cites any statistics that hospitals are nearing capacity. Because they can't:
That's why they use relative terms like 'omfg hospitilizations have tripled!' Sounds a lot more ominous than "hospitilizations have returned to levels seen in summer 2020 and spring 2021, roughly 1/3 the peak level seen in winter.'
That's why they use relative terms like 'omfg hospitilizations have tripled!' Sounds a lot more ominous than "hospitilizations have returned to levels seen in summer 2020 and spring 2021, roughly 1/3 the peak level seen in winter.'
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Filter by 'Texas' 'Louisiana', or 'Arkansas' for the jurisdiction on the page you cite.....
You said they were taxed because they were unhealthy, not pre-prepared. Taxing pre-prepared food is exactly what I referred to. And the motive is not because it is unhealthy.
Ultimately you seem to miss the point of my post. I am not questioning whether the government takes action for pubic health and safety reasons, or whether they even should. My point is, they do not do it in matters more deadly than COVID. It is left to the public to assess the risk on their circumstance. So why not now?
Baton Rouge children's hospital nears capacity, braces for surge in Covid cases ahead of school year
A children's hospital in Louisiana is experiencing a wave of Covid-19 hospitalizations as the Delta variant pervades the region.www.cnn.com
Inside a Covid I.C.U., Hopes Fade as Patients Surge In (Published 2021)
Doctors and nurses in a Florida hospital thought the onslaught of coronavirus admissions had ended. Now they need more intensive care beds.www.nytimes.com
"On a crash course": Texas hospitals brace for another COVID-19 surge as delta variant burns through unvaccinated communities
Hospital officials worry that "staggering and frightening" hospitalization rates will push facilities to capacity at a time when staffing is short and workers are exhausted.
Louisiana hospitals prepare for surge of COVID-19 patients
NEW ORLEANS – The latest surge of coronavirus cases is hitting Southern states especially hard. This week, Louisiana reported its highest single-day spike in COVID-19 hospitalizations since the pan…
Hospitals are full as state's covid cases rise by 980 | Arkansas Democrat Gazette
Top health officials in Arkansas warned Thursday of an approaching threat to patients' access to care as the number of coronavirus patients in hospitals rose by double-digits for the 10th day in a row.
Perhaps it is the portion of the hospital designed and equipped to handle Covid patients that is reaching a limit? To take my friend for example, he was at one hospital but on a list to be transferred to a hospital that had specialized equipment, in this case something called an ECMO machine that oxygenates blood. It was a 5 day wait until a spot opened.