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Not sure that the pressure on the PRC would have amounted to anything. They really didn’t play despite the fact that they had an issue as early as Oct 19.
I suppose president Trump could have done things differently?
Yeah, I'm surprised a leader with good judgment would have abided someone like Fauci? No disinfectants in the lungs? Crazy not to study that.😆
Oh well, I'm sure RFK jr will get things up to speed over there...
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
Well, since he was the President for the first 10 months of the pandemic and spent most of his time on camera complaining about the people who work for him...
nope.
He was the chief executive. This is lame. He could have fired any of these folks if he wanted.
The bucks stops there
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
It sounds like you all think I was making excuses for the actions of the President rather than criticizing them. I don't know why you got that impression.
First year+ if we are being honest, since that shit was all over the radio as I was doing my final PCS in Jan 2020, and the first case in the US was already recorded in Everett, WA, near where I was headed. I agree, he should have done things differently. He failed to provide leadership in that scenario. The inputs of Fauci and others should have been considered, and then balanced against other conflicting valid interests. What we got instead was a twitter president undermining people unofficially. That shit should have stopped in the Oval Office. He took credit for the vaccine, which to some extent is a valid claim, and then completely undermined it to appease a certain political base. Maybe just say, hey this thing is out there, and it isn't a mandate.
No, I was just riffing on your post.
Why would the German intelligence service cover up the origins of Covid?
Germany ‘buried’ spy report that Covid started in Wuhan lab
Chancellors Merkel and Scholz are said to have kept secret an explosive intelligence assessment of how the pandemic began
Germany ‘buried’ spy report that Covid started in Wuhan lab
Chancellors Merkel and Scholz are said to have kept secret an explosive intelligence assessment of how the pandemic began
www.thetimes.com
Shocking . . . .Why would the German intelligence service cover up the origins of Covid?
Germany ‘buried’ spy report that Covid started in Wuhan lab
Chancellors Merkel and Scholz are said to have kept secret an explosive intelligence assessment of how the pandemic began
Germany ‘buried’ spy report that Covid started in Wuhan lab
Chancellors Merkel and Scholz are said to have kept secret an explosive intelligence assessment of how the pandemic beganwww.thetimes.com
The authors are making the podcast rounds to promote their book. There's some decent stuff to be discussed, but while listening to one such episode I couldn't help but take away (particularly from Professor Frances Lee's commentary) that it is a lot of woulda-coulda-shoulda with the benefit of hindsight. Through that lens, there is of course plenty to criticize (starting with the duration of school closures and extending all the way to closed open-public spaces), but that lens seems a bit convenient.
I experienced the peak of the pandemic very differently than most Americans (five beers days is no way to go through life...), so some of these reads are interesting to me only from the sense that I wasn't here.
One thing that continues to blow my mind, and related to the book (how politics failed us), is how one of DJT's largest accomplishments during his first term was WARP SPEED. Whether that was a direct result of his #winning genius, or it just so happened that he was in office, it doesn't really matter, presidents get credit and blame. Why was he so quick to run away from the success of that endeavor? Maybe the 259 people in west Texas with measles can answer that for us...
I experienced the peak of the pandemic very differently than most Americans (five beers days is no way to go through life...), so some of these reads are interesting to me only from the sense that I wasn't here.
One thing that continues to blow my mind, and related to the book (how politics failed us), is how one of DJT's largest accomplishments during his first term was WARP SPEED. Whether that was a direct result of his #winning genius, or it just so happened that he was in office, it doesn't really matter, presidents get credit and blame. Why was he so quick to run away from the success of that endeavor? Maybe the 259 people in west Texas with measles can answer that for us...
Looks like an interesting book.The authors are making the podcast rounds to promote their book. There's some decent stuff to be discussed, but while listening to one such episode I couldn't help but take away (particularly from Professor Frances Lee's commentary) that it is a lot of woulda-coulda-shoulda with the benefit of hindsight. Through that lens, there is of course plenty to criticize (starting with the duration of school closures and extending all the way to closed open-public spaces), but that lens seems a bit convenient.
I experienced the peak of the pandemic very differently than most Americans (five beers days is no way to go through life...), so some of these reads are interesting to me only from the sense that I wasn't here.
One thing that continues to blow my mind, and related to the book (how politics failed us), is how one of DJT's largest accomplishments during his first term was WARP SPEED. Whether that was a direct result of his #winning genius, or it just so happened that he was in office, it doesn't really matter, presidents get credit and blame. Why was he so quick to run away from the success of that endeavor? Maybe the 259 people in west Texas with measles can answer that for us...
In the NYT today, there was an editorial that discussed the frenzy to label anybody who argued Covid started as a lab leak a conspiracy theorist. The fact that the virus started 50 feet away from the front door of said laboratory would lead you to believe a lab leak was a reasonable possibility.
We Were Badly Misled About the Event That Changed Our Lives
Since scientists first began playing around with dangerous pathogens in laboratories, the world has experienced four or five pandemics, depending
dnyuz.com
Looks like an interesting book.
In the NYT today, there was an editorial that discussed the frenzy to label anybody who argued Covid started as a lab leak a conspiracy theorist. The fact that the virus started 50 feet away from the front door of said laboratory would lead you to believe a lab leak was a reasonable possibility.
We Were Badly Misled About the Event That Changed Our Lives
Since scientists first began playing around with dangerous pathogens in laboratories, the world has experienced four or five pandemics, dependingdnyuz.com
I have long felt the rush to close ranks around the bat soup theory reeked of protectionism. Call me a crank, but I think Covid came out of that lab. Too many coincidences line up that aren’t easily dismissed outside of groupthink echo chambers.
I could also envision a possibility of a lab leak that was never identified as such. Something or someone got contaminated and never knew, so they made a false assumption about the meat market, and the CCP ran with it to lose as little face as possible.
But whether or not it was a lab leak, there are lessons to be learned, and research practices to be updated. I don’t get a solid sense any of that has happened, because… why, exactly? Either I am under-informed, or there is a significant lack of transparency in that aspect of scientific research. I guess both could also be true.
Either way the dismissiveness toward dissenting thought makes me angry, considering the damage done and lives lost.
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