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- Thread starter Treetop Flyer
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Fixed it for you.
Usually the network invites YOU...unless you have an agent trying to book you air time. Which I kind of doubt that this guy does.
Do you automatically discredit her opinion below because she’s a Fox News contributor?
Dr. Nicole Saphier: In coronavirus fight, politicians should stop telling doctors how to treat our patients
Government officials are hurting rather than helping in the fight against the coronavirus when they restrict actions of doctors.
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Professor Knut Wittkowski, former head of the Rockefeller University’s Department of Biostatistics, Epidemiology, and Research Design
Really wish we had listened to this guy’s advice over Dr. Fauci. The virus would have peaked weeks ago and the epidemic would have already been over by now. Our economy would be in much better shape as well.
Flattening the curve has also widened the curve. What could have been over in a few weeks will now take months, and destroy three years of economic growth in the process. The quarantine of healthy people is not doing us any favors. Have the old, infirm, and sick self-quarantine, and get the rest of the country back to work. We need to start developing herd immunity so we don’t have a resurgence of this in the fall. Sweden ?? has the right approach to this.
I think it was pretty obvious from the rest of my sentence that I see you as being significantly to the right (vice left or libertarian). I think your posts here and in the Thunderdome thread confirm that. I also thinks it's fairly common for people on the right to look to lawmakers to control other people's personal lives (e.g., religion, marriage, sex, alcohol, drugs, decency, etc.) I don't see the confusion on your part or the paranoia on mine.
Without knowing as much as she does, I think I agree with her. I don't automatically discredit her, no, but if she is a Fox regular -- it does lower my trust.Usually the network invites YOU...unless you have an agent trying to book you air time. Which I kind of doubt that this guy does.
Do you automatically discredit her opinion below because she’s a Fox News contributor?
Dr. Nicole Saphier: In coronavirus fight, politicians should stop telling doctors how to treat our patients
Government officials are hurting rather than helping in the fight against the coronavirus when they restrict actions of doctors.www.foxnews.com
Like I said, I'm not sure why you tagged me. I'm in the "we've probably overreacted" camp (just slightly), but I also know that I'm toward the risk-accepting side of the spectrum (in flight too), and the risk I'm willing to accept for me, the wife, and kids, might not be the best plan for my elderly (grand)parents or coworkers with co-morbidities.
I'll take the advice of an MD who is an infectious disease specialist, along with countless other medical professionals, over a medical statistical analyst.
Even when that MD’s model has been consistently incorrect? They’ve had to revise their estimates each week.
Week 1: it will be 2.2 million deaths!!
Week 2: actually... 240,000 deaths
Week 3: ummm... 60,000 deaths
Week 4: yeah... we don’t really know...
Probably the same models used for climate change.
Ummmm...yeah, that has been made clear from the beginning. Those models were used to show what might happen if measures weren't put in place to limit the spread of the virus and have been revised after many of those measures were in fact put in place. So yeah, I'll still go with the medical docs on this one.
The original models took social distancing and masks into account. They had to revise them because the weekly numbers were not adding up, because the models were flawed (and probably still are..)
exNavyOffRec
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Some of those early models that were indeed taking into account a "quarantine" were way off as some were using data from what they were seeing early on here in the US, however it hit at the worst place and demographic and not all the info was released to the public right away. It is like trying to find out how fast the average american can run 1 mile, then making predictions after a dozen 80 year olds run a mile.
Imagine trying to figure out exactly how many people on the planet enjoy Jelly Bellies by conducting a mass worldwide distribution of the candy in random amounts, including all 50 flavors (even that piece-of-shit popcorn one), with no selection criteria or reporting standardization for results implemented before the beans made it to mouths.
That's what everything related to COVID-19 data has felt like since we heard about bat soup.
Each time a model is proven in hindsight to not have been calibrated correctly, I don't find myself getting irate with medicine leadership about it. Maybe I'm wrong to feel that way, but I sure don't envy anybody who has to craft something objective and quantitative out of the trash they've been handed. And I definitely haven't been shunning Dr. Fauci and his ilk in favor of One America Fucking News, whose videos have been making their rounds on my Facebook all week.
That's what everything related to COVID-19 data has felt like since we heard about bat soup.
Each time a model is proven in hindsight to not have been calibrated correctly, I don't find myself getting irate with medicine leadership about it. Maybe I'm wrong to feel that way, but I sure don't envy anybody who has to craft something objective and quantitative out of the trash they've been handed. And I definitely haven't been shunning Dr. Fauci and his ilk in favor of One America Fucking News, whose videos have been making their rounds on my Facebook all week.