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Crossing the finish line... running, walking or crawling... (Reserve Retirement Process)

Sam I am

Sam I am

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I'm proactively going through the math verification process right now...I'm currently at 18 years 5 months and 10 days of service and point complete with year 19. When I hit my anniversary I'll be at 19 years 5 months and 10 days. So, I called Millington to confirm what actual date I should be applying for retirement. To my surprise they have now informed me that I have 2 bad years. Not going to lie, that was a serious WTF moment. However, after they told me what years were bad I calmed down quite a bit and simply had to slap my forehead as the years they are saying are bad were embedded right smack in the middle of my 8 years of Active Duty. So, I have now sent in all supporting documentation of my active duty years to include my FITREPS, DD 214, and ASOSH & FITREP Continuity Report. I do not expect anyone to get back to me quickly to resolve the matter. PERS-912 handles the retirements...at least that's what I was told on the phone. All the paper work and relevant DOD instruction can be found on the NPC website...here's a link...not sure how ling this will stay current.

http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-n...nelmgmt/ReserveRetirements/Pages/default.aspx
 
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ExNavyDr

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fieldrat said:
Have you checked your ASOSH? It will show not only your total points, but also your number of "qualifying years towards retirement", otherwise known as 'good years'. Twenty years on the clock does not 20 good years make. I won't cover how points are accumulated/minimum points (see MILPERSMAN 1001-100). Suffice to say, make sure your math agrees with whatever version Millington is using.
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I am aware that 20 yrs on the clock does not make 20 qualifying years. Currently, I am having trouble getting my ASOSH - what I referred to in my post as my statement of service. I have one that I tracked down from PERS912 in 2015 and at that time I had 17 qualifying years. I've done the correspondence courses etc since that time to get to 20 yrs. Other than PERS912 and ebenefits, is there another place to get a copy of my ASOSH?

And for anyone who has reached 20 yrs - I'm now 4 months past that and haven't received my letter stating I'm eligible for retirement. When should I expect that? Do I have to request it and if so, from who?
 
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ExNavyDr said:
I am aware that 20 yrs on the clock does not make 20 qualifying years. Currently, I am having trouble getting my ASOSH - what I referred to in my post as my statement of service. I have one that I tracked down from PERS912 in 2015 and at that time I had 17 qualifying years. I've done the correspondence courses etc since that time to get to 20 yrs. Other than PERS912 and ebenefits, is there another place to get a copy of my ASOSH?
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Supposedly you can get the info from a NOSC. Of course that could be painful if there isn't one near you. Or get a verbal from NPC customer service.

Link: https://www.public.navy.mil/BUPERS-NPC/CAREER/RESERVEPERSONNELMGMT/Pages/default.aspx
 
m5h9

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ExNavyDr said:
New member here and have a question -
So I think I've done my 20 yrs (12 yrs AD + 2 yrs active reserves + 6 yrs IRR) as of April 2018, but I've never received that letter telling me I'm good to go. I also can't get a hold of my points record (or is it called a statement of service? what is it called?). I sent the faxed request to PER912 about 6 weeks ago and not heard anything. I did verify they "logged" in my request but as you all may know they are apparently months behind in getting their jobs done. Tried to get onto ebenefits to print it out and that was a fail.

How long after you hit 20 did any of you get that letter saying you are eligible for retirement?

Any suggestions as to what to do next? I don't want to work on any points this year if I don't have to, but if I have to I realize I have to get started at some point.
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Call Pers-912 and see if you are eligible to apply to the gray area. You can go to the reserve personnel management pages at npc navy to do some digging as well.
 
vxc961

vxc961

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ExNavyDr said:
I am aware that 20 yrs on the clock does not make 20 qualifying years. Currently, I am having trouble getting my ASOSH - what I referred to in my post as my statement of service. I have one that I tracked down from PERS912 in 2015 and at that time I had 17 qualifying years. I've done the correspondence courses etc since that time to get to 20 yrs. Other than PERS912 and ebenefits, is there another place to get a copy of my ASOSH?

And for anyone who has reached 20 yrs - I'm now 4 months past that and haven't received my letter stating I'm eligible for retirement. When should I expect that? Do I have to request it and if so, from who?
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Email Jill.cord@navy.mil if you can’t get on to bupers online (requires a cac card). She’s a hr specialist at bupers for retirements.
 
atmahan

atmahan

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ExNavyDr said:
I am aware that 20 yrs on the clock does not make 20 qualifying years. Currently, I am having trouble getting my ASOSH - what I referred to in my post as my statement of service. I have one that I tracked down from PERS912 in 2015 and at that time I had 17 qualifying years. I've done the correspondence courses etc since that time to get to 20 yrs. Other than PERS912 and ebenefits, is there another place to get a copy of my ASOSH?

And for anyone who has reached 20 yrs - I'm now 4 months past that and haven't received my letter stating I'm eligible for retirement. When should I expect that? Do I have to request it and if so, from who?
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ExNavyDr,

I don't think you get letters when you get near to 20 years. I think you get letters when you are nearing the limit of how long you can stay in the Navy.

For me, as a O-4 who was a 2XFOS for O-5, my limit was 20 years (actually 21 due to my Sanctuary and situation), which happens to also match the number of years required for a Retirement. In MY situation, I started getting letters in my 18th year (when I hit Sanctuary) detailing the Navy's plans to force me out at either 20 Qualfying Years or 21 Commissioned Years, whichever came first. Those letters always also included an "oh, and by the way, you I also have an opportunity to qualify for a retirement, but that is all on you to achieve that" vibe. And each letter I received referenced the previous one I got. So, the Navy does have a very organized system to track you and correspond with you.

Specifically, to answer your question, since I qualified for Retirement at my 20 years, I got my retirement paperwork a few months prior to my retirement date.

So, maybe your address is not up to date since you should have already started receiving letters?

Or

If you are an O-5 or above, you can stay in until your 26th year (O-5) or 30th (above). If this is the case, but you are at 20 and want to retire, then I believe that you will have to initiate a Retirement request. Otherwise, you won't start getting letters until your 26-30th year. You can visit here for info:

http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-n...nelmgmt/ReserveRetirements/Pages/default.aspx

I hope this helps.

ATMahan
 
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Randy Daytona

Randy Daytona

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atmahan said:
ExNavyDr,

I don't think you get letters when you get near to 20 years. I think you get letters when you are nearing the limit of how long you can stay in the Navy.

For me, as a O-4 who was a 2XFOS for O-5, my limit was 20 years (actually 21 due to my Sanctuary and situation), which happens to also match the number of years required for a Retirement. In MY situation, I started getting letters in my 18th year (when I hit Sanctuary) detailing the Navy's plans to force me out at either 20 Qualfying Years or 21 Commissioned Years, whichever came first. Those letters always also included an "oh, and by the way, you I also have an opportunity to qualify for a retirement, but that is all on you to achieve that" vibe. And each letter I received referenced the previous one I got. So, the Navy does have a very organized system to track you and correspond with you.

Specifically, to answer your question, since I qualified for Retirement at my 20 years, I got my retirement paperwork a few months prior to my retirement date.

So, maybe your address is not up to date since you should have already started receiving letters?

Or

If you are an O-5 or above, you can stay in until your 26th year (O-5) or 30th (above). If this is the case, but you are at 20 and want to retire, then I believe that you will have to initiate a Retirement request. Otherwise, you won't start getting letters until your 26-30th year. You can visit here for info:

http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-n...nelmgmt/ReserveRetirements/Pages/default.aspx

I hope this helps.

ATMahan
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You get both. I got one when I satisfactorily completed 20 years, just got another saying that my retirement is scheduled for next year so they basically give you a 1 year warning. Also, it is 28 years for an O-5, 30 years for an O-6.
 
Flash

Flash

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Hair Warrior said:
Is there also an age cap for each rank, in addition to a years-of-service cap?
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Pretty sure the max age is 62 for everyone in the Navy unless you are in an appointed position like O-9/10, not sure if MCPON is included in that. Max age by law for O-8 and below in the US military is 64.

nittany03 said:
Well, given that you can draw pay at 60 . . . why stay later than that if you joined late in life?
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The one guy I know who reached 62 joined late, the second time, and did his first few years enlisted. He had only been promoted Captain 3 or so years beforehand.
 
bubblehead

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10 U.S. Code § 1251: Mandatory retirement age is age 62 for all officers other than general or flag officers. Service Secretaries may defer the retirement of health professional officers and chaplains until the age of 68.

10 U.S. Code § 1252: Mandatory retirement age for permanent professors at service schools is age 64.

10 U.S. Code § 1253: Mandatory retirement age for general and flag officers is age 64. Officers in O9 and O10 positions may have retirement deferred until age 66 by the SECDEF or until age 68 by the President.
 
vxc961

vxc961

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Sculpin said:
That's probably his plan anyways. He'll do a tour on a hospital ship, then separate. The guy's certainly loaded with money and very close to retirement age. He isn't worrying about a military retirement.
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Yup...I'm in law-enforcement, and we have a volunteer medic (trauma surgeon) who's on our SWAT team. He's also a volunteer firefighter; great guy, and although I'm not sure why he didn't do these things sooner, they're "bucket-list" items for him. It does make me realize that despite all (and I mean ALL!) my bitching about the reserves, it really is an honor to serve.
 
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