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Dear Boss, I quit! A letter to Air Force leadership....
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Fixed it for you. Still trolling?
Of course! I never lost any flight time when you guys went Green on Green (and often gained an hour or two). Even on my boat tour it never really hassled us - as we were fond of saying, all the Air Plan really gave us was a point from which to measure deviation.
Ok, this is wierd that I am the one taking the air force side, but I will run with it.
I didn't connect all of those dots, my bad: E-6's fly because of the umbrella of air superiority provided in the USA by the air force. Here's an analogy: how would Europe's foreign policy be different if the USA didn't exist and act as global police man? I don't know exactly, but it would be very different.
You don't know what you are talking about, Donny. Although I do appreciate all the faith you helo guys have in us.
It's "you're out of you're element Donny"
I think they proudly consider themselves attack pilots, just like that A-6 guys did. Oh, and an F-117 is a bomber by the way.
I bet you are the same kind of guy who goes to a strip club and wonders why all the girls aren't already naked.
There were some highly motivated A-6 drivers who strapped on AIM-9s in hopes of going MiG hunting.
And I carry chaff and an ALQ... does that make me an EF/A-18?
I agree with you, I just remembered something I had read about an A-6 squadron armed with winders in VietNam. The last pure AA platform in the US inventory is the F-15C. Every other TacAir platform is multirole. The whole F-117 thing was a result of the AF hateing the letter A.
And they might be putting Sniper pods on the 15C's... for A/A of course.
http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2012/05/air-force-f-15c-guard-pod-tracking-ability-051412w/
I think most of us are on board with the leadership deficit/hypocrisy problem. We've had a million threads about it on this site. I was shocked when the service chiefs were quoted blaming junior officer and NCO leadership for our "conduct" problems. As an example, the Navy relieved over 5% of its ship captains in 2011. That's a failure rate higher than what I'd expect in a group of junior enlisted! Not to get religious, but I hear Christ was apparently a corporal once, and he said,"You hypocrite! First take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."
The rest is just wanking about airpower. He forgets the key thing. Airpower will always be a SUPPORTING element. That not because it's not important, but because people don't live in the fucking sky.
The rest is just wanking about airpower. He forgets the key thing. Airpower will always be a SUPPORTING element. That not because it's not important, but because people don't live in the fucking sky.
phrogpilot73
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You're right, I don't. And there's a metric fuck-ton more to the Marine Corp's mission than a strike package coming off a carrier.
Come back and tell me how necessary the Air Force is after you do a tour as a FAC with a BLT. You'll sail alone and unafraid, and do a myriad of the mission sets of a MEU(SOC) without a single Air Force asset/planner involved.
Again, it's getting tiring to say - but he said that NONE of the services could do their job without the Air Force. For my 10 years on Active Duty, every single REAL WORLD thing I did NEVER involved any support from the Air Force. Check that. One time I was on the way back from Al Qaim and couldn't pass traffic to DASC. JSTARs was bored, and relayed it for me. They really saved the day.
I've often wondered why they didn't call it a "B-117"? Something to do with program source funding $$$ pots?
BzB
Did you comment on your own quote? How meta.