Does the Marine Corps change political views?

[Lawman]

I'd venture to say there is, considering how many people are on welfare and how many peopel should not be on it in the first place.

There is money to be saved everywhere though. Too much money going to ridiculous causes and things.

One of the Areas in Daytons 2nd District is a State housing project. I got to work plenty of Foot Patrols there. Residents either payed $37 a month for the apartment (2 bedroom duplex, Aprox 850 Sq Ft) or a Percentage of thier wage from any job they had (most worked under the table if at all). There were approx 40 units all but about 3 housing familys of 4 or larger (as many as 8). Out of the residents we worked with Id venture that no more then 8 familys held regular wage paying jobs. The others recieved foot stamps and wellfare. These are people that would piss and moan about how bad they had it, meanwhile they were living the bling life, Plasma TV, better food then we eat (for the parents the kids near starved) one guy had even had Spinners on his car.

Theres a lot of people like this on welfare, basically these are the guys that realized if you dont have any recorded money then its cheaper to pay the 10% income tax then the flat $200 in Monopoly. This is where your tax money goes ladies and gentlemen. This and the bumbling mistake that is the Red Cross..... but thats another thread intirely.

 

[Lawman]

Fiscal Liberal, Social Conservative: I would, for lack of a better term, refer to this as Authoritarianism.

You'll find this runs very closely to the "Socialist Utopia" model. In which everything you need *key word need, not want* is provided for you, but you have no say in anything.

 

[gaijin6423]

I believe this is what's known as being "Hood Rich". But what do I know? After all, I actually work (ok, study) for my paycheck, so I'm not "down". The welfare system is DEFUNCT, pure and simple. I say that, if you want the welfare check, then you should provide some form of service. If you want to live in government housing project, good to go, but you're going to be held accountable for its upkeep. You don't want to contribute? Okay, fine. But your ass is out on the street, and your kids are going to foster homes, where they might learn something passable for ethical/moral values or at least some good manners.

 

[spec05v]

http://www.self-gov.org/

This is a site given to me by one of my college professors that is a LIBERTARIAN. Enjoy!

 

[petescheu]

Life experience in addition to personality shapes political views. This is a generalization but I find that people with conservative political affiliations are more likely to choose a career in the military.

Agreed... I think it is fair to say that a majority, although of course not all, of the military leans to the right. I know that in my community at least it seems that a very large majority has a strong conservative base, although that is just a small percentage of the military as a whole, obviously.
I think someone posted a survey on here in a previous thread about a poll that was taken among military members about how they voted and what the percentages were... I think it was something like 70-30 right-left, although someone correct me if I'm out to lunch on that one.

 

[Fly Navy]

Agreed... I think it is fair to say that a majority, although of course not all, of the military leans to the right. I know that in my community at least it seems that a very large majority has a strong conservative base, although that is just a small percentage of the military as a whole, obviously.
I think someone posted a survey on here in a previous thread about a poll that was taken among military members about how they voted and what the percentages were... I think it was something like 70-30 right-left, although someone correct me if I'm out to lunch on that one.

It's not just military. Anyone that deals with tangible responsibility tends to lean right. Businessmen, people that handle money (no, not bank tellers), etc. There is obviously deviation from this depending where you live, but it seems to hold in many cases. Academics? No responsibility whatsoever, not real life, no wonder they're leftist.

 

[Lawman]

Id have to say that the two biggest changes as far as my life experiance that made me slide right on a lot of ideas were
1. Working in the Law Enforcement Field and being a Criminal Justice Major

2. Becoming a Gun Owner

I can still agree with some of the lefts ideas but yeah those two things moved me further into the right then Id ever been before. Though Im still deffinately a Moderate by comparison to the present parties.

 

[Brett327]

I'm a Sans Jesus Conservative (SJC).

Brett

 

[theduke]

SJC...that sounds kinda right-libertarianish to me. fiscal conservative, social moderate?

 

[Lawman]

SJC...that sounds kinda right-libertarianish to me. fiscal conservative, social moderate?

Umm... its Latin, it means without. Bretts saying hes conservative till they get to convesations on how were gonna put Jesus back in Schools and what not.

 

[phrogpilot73]

I'm taking a Law & Ethics class, and it's interesting how they put it... "Americans are generally fiscally conservative and socially liberal..." I tend to agree...

 

[Fly Navy]

I'm taking a Law & Ethics class, and it's interesting how they put it... "Americans are generally fiscally conservative and socially liberal..." I tend to agree...

Judging by how big the government has gotten and how many ridiculous programs there... the fiscally conservative seems to be going the way of the dodo.

 

[phrogpilot73]

Judging by how big the government has gotten and how many ridiculous programs there... the fiscally conservative seems to be going the way of the dodo.

Agreed, but I think that the text was referring to how individual citizens generally think. I don't think that many people think that half the programs are great ideas and represent their views...

 

[Brett327]

Umm... its Latin, it means without. Bretts saying hes conservative till they get to convesations on how were gonna put Jesus back in Schools and what not.

I think you both have it right.

Brett

 

[Lawman]

Agreed, but I think that the text was referring to how individual citizens generally think. I don't think that many people think that half the programs are great ideas and represent their views...

Id beg to differ, most people before 2005 would tell you that the "Oil for Food" program sounds like a good idea. Id venture that 85% of the Voting aged American public does little to know anything about an idea other then maybe knowing the name its under. Think of everytime you go and vote locally, do you know anything about those judges on the ballot other then thier last names and which sign you think you saw the most? Thats the problem, nobody actually researches anything in this country before deciding its a good idea. Most Americans thought the Assault Weapons Ban was against fully automatic weapons, the list goes on.