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Drug Boat Strike

MIDNJAC said:
I mean of course the Venezuelan govt and the families would say that, just like of course the president’s folks would claim the opposite. I’m not sure this tweet really clarifies anything with facts, other than i suppose the last sentence
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This was just an example tweet. Add to the pile the articles that speak tobthe questionable legality, etc...

We owe it to the guys or gals who took that shot to know that their target was valid, met the ROE, and was in accordance with the LOAC. Hand waiving doesn't do that.
 
MIDNJAC said:
I mean of course the Venezuelan govt and the families would say that, just like of course the president’s folks would claim the opposite. I’m not sure this tweet really clarifies anything with facts, other than i suppose the last sentence
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It suggests there are families that can be queried for details outside of our intel organization. I expect investigative journalists will.

That boat does not look like a fishing boat, unless it's like the open ocean version of an overpowered bass boat that has to race its competitors to the best fishing hole. Three engines and moving fast in decent waves? Also, we just boarded a much bigger Venezuelan fishing boat that had only 9 people on board. Why did this one have 11?

Sad that I am just not trusting our government right now? Where TF is congress?
 
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There's two separate issues at hand. One is the reality of what the vessel was doing. The other is the legality of the action taken.

Because many don't feel the shot was legal (with good reason) or just don't like the administration, they're turning the reality of what the vessel was doing into a political weapon. It's important to understand and differentiate the two in this case, especially here in AW as a group of individuals who are educated in the specifics of ROE thanks to their professions.

Assuming there was an asset available, that vessel would have been fired on under normal circumstances if it didn't stop. There's zero question in mind that would have happened. Everything about that configuration indicates it meets the ROE for AUF. The important thing to know/be aware of is that the shots wouldn't have been at the people. I know you guys understand that, but just reiterating the point.

As an aside, it is relevant to mention that people do get injured even when conducting AUF. Bullets can do interesting things.
 
PhrogPhlyer said:
If you don't believe it the kill/attack is valid, you don't pull the trigger (switch, button, device).
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This is a rather Pollyannaish trope where there's never ambiguity and you always have perfect information upon which to base your decisions. Probably a good thing to say to a Marine at the shooting range during boot camp, but not terribly helpful otherwise.
 
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