Ensignhood, debt, cars, and family help therewith

[HAL Pilot]

Good parents look out for their kids and hopefully those good kids will look out for Mom and Dad when the time comes.

The deal with my parents was that I'd do the same for my kid. Which I will. They also know that I will take care of them if needed just like I know they will take care of me if ever needed. It's called family.

It stressed me just to read this but p3wife has a good point - the debt is combined in marriage:

Yeah...where I escaped any college debt of my own I sure got to pay the ex-wifes. Luckily I was a LT on max flight pay by then.

Diasy - you're doing the right thing by your kids. They're lucky to have the parents they do.

 

[HAL Pilot]

Now if you're having everything paid for and a hundred dollar a week stipend from your parents It's a f***** umbilical cord come on now. (again there's nothing wrong with it, but that's what it is, and anyone who can say with a straight face they aren't still attached to their mom by an umbilical cord is a d*** liar) Case closed.

I can say it with a straight face. I was not attached to my Mom by an umbilical cord. I'm sorry your parents couldn't or wouldn't do it for you.

Again....get older, gain more life experience and have a kid. Then we'll have this conversation again.

Until then - get over it.

 

[Daisy]

The deal with my parents was that I'd do the same for my kid. Which I will. They also know that I will take care of them if needed just like I know they will take care of me if ever needed. It's called family.

Nicely put. You said it better than I could.

I know a bunch of people that received scholarships other than just the NROTC scholarship which helped them out a lot. In short, having an NROTC scholarship doesn't make you exempt from receiving others.

Yes, thanks for mentioning that - I tend to forget about those opportunities.

 

[AJB37]

Well it's understandable if you're in denial. Obviously you weren't attached in a literal sense, but how could you have survived without them unless you changed the lifestyle you lived in college? That fits the definition of an umbilical pretty well. You already said you had everything paid for and just had to work a bit for your beer money, which probably isn't even 100% true.

To echo one of your statements, the kids who would never admit they were attached to their parents by an umbilical cord, tend to be the ones who have everything paid for. You need to at least give a fair analysis of the situation when you want to make one sided statements. If you honestly think that living on your own in a college dorm with all expenses paid isn't an umbilical cord, not in a literal sense, then you and I just see things different.

Again...there's nothing wrong with having everything paid for, but how can you sit here and say just because you're living own you're own that you basically aren't still attached to your parents (without them you would starve or not be able to function, which signifies the umbilical cord) and depend on them? Ok maybe calling it an umbilical cord is a bit derogatory, but what would you call it then?

I plan on helping my kids with college. That doesn't change the fact that if I'm paying for everything they will still be basically attached to my wife and I by an umbilical cord. If they don't follow the rules and perform, then it'll be severed.

Since you like to keep saying I'm sorry you parents couldn't help you. I'm sorry you're bitter you really know that you were still attached by an umbilical throughout college. Get over it....college was the easiest four years of your life and you know it..

Paying for a child to live in college is not an umbilical cord (and yes, I know your speaking metaphorically, you don't have to clarify that as you did in a previous post.) You really need to step down off your high horse, maybe just long enough to cite something other than anecdotal evidence. It sucks that you had to pay for your own college, work, take on debt, or whatever, but you really shouldn't come post on a random internet site that students who were supported by their parents were really just leeches suckling at the tit of their parents well past their time. You are completely entitled to your opinion and its great that you want to play the victim because you had to watch your friends go out and party on their parents dime while you were forced to work 2 jobs that you had to walk to, in the snow, uphill both ways. So what I guess this rant is trying to say is, unless you can actually show me some hard evidence that because I took money from my mom to pay for school, books, room, and food, that I am somehow a worse student than you or somebody else that paid their way through college, you should really just sit down and keep your thoughts to your self. But what do I know, I was apparently busy partying, drinking, and banging random girls with my mom's money.

 

[MrsPickle]

As the wife to the infamous Pickle, I will have to add that, in addition to his loans, he is also paying back MY LOANS ($65K). Marriage was a decision at this point in our life, just as having children (we have 2, by the way) was.

I have no desire for my kids to go through what Pickle and I are going through right now. (see above post about Pickle and I not living the "JO lifestyle.")

Your tone, especially to HAL is extremely rude. You need to know who you are talking to, and what your tone implies. I know there wouldn't be a snowball's chance in hell that you would speak to a veteran like that to his face.

You aren't married, you don't have kids, you aren't even in the military. You need to SIT DOWN and shut the f%^k up.

p.s. pickle- don't call our 2 year old "little pickle sonofabitch." He'll end up with a complex, and turn out like you...

 

[Spekkio]

The picklets are lucky to have good parents .

Personally, I'm very grateful for the opportunity my parents afforded me in college and for a couple years after. They could've just said "gtfo!," and I would've been up shit's creek paying a $500+/mo for private student loans. I also would've been faced with the choice of moving to an entirely different location with no family support and no job, or trying to afford an apartment in an area where BAH is more than an O-1 salary after taxes on a $40k/year salary.

But they didn't do that. They knew how much a private loan would be, so they made up what federal loans wouldn't cover, which keeps my student loan payments to $100/mo. They knew how insanely expensive rent is on LI, so they let me live at home until I made enough money to move out. Because of that, I was able to afford furniture for my apartment when I did move out, instead of borrow more money to do it. I can also put away money for retirement and my kids. Point being, there are people in this world who can acknowledge that they lucked out, and can be fully-functional and independent adults after having help with college finances.

Like Hal's parents, all they ask is that I work hard and do the same for my kids, whenever I may have them.