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Europe under extreme duress

Random8145

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I don't have a dog in this fight overall, but: with the benefit of hindsight, the failures of these conflicts make it easy to cast us as the aggressors. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the perception of us as the aggressors; it is more common than you'd think when viewed outside the shores of the U.S.
I'd say Iraq 2.0 was about the only war we really could be seen as close to an aggressor.
 

Notanaviator

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Hey man, I want to really apologize for asking questions and providing an opinion that you didn't agree with. That was really mean of me to trigger your delicate sensibilities like that.

Anyone on here up for a debate on the topic at hand, or you just want to criticize people for disagreeing with you?
It kinda seems like what you might consider a valid response to your ramblings needs to be similarly lengthy, include footnotes/bibliography, reference a lot of published foreign policy theory, as well as layer in comprehensive criticisms/appreciations of the various state actors, their governments, motivations, quality and variety of subordinate intelligence agencies, etc.

Is it at all possible that everyone on here might have the experience to weigh in that way, but also have better shit to do with their time? At the end of the day, it’s a damn Internet forum my dude. Chill out a bit.
 

Randy Daytona

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“German investigators said on Wednesday they had searched a ship in January which was suspected of transporting the explosives used to sabotage the two gas pipelines. There was at this stage no evidence to suggest a foreign state was involved, they said.”


I applaud Randy for trying to get this thread back on track.

It looks like the “it had to be state actors!” theory is now “a couple dudes and a dame in a rented yacht”????
Beyond who did it, really interested in the ramifications on the European economies. Heard that Germany is now getting half of its power from coal.

Without the availability of inexpensive natural gas, will the German economy stumble? With the sanctioning of Russian raw materials and the decoupling from Chinese manufacturing; overall the rolling back / restructuring of globalization, the 2020’s might be the most tumultuous decade since the 1940’s.
 

Random8145

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Beyond who did it, really interested in the ramifications on the European economies. Heard that Germany is now getting half of its power from coal.

Without the availability of inexpensive natural gas, will the German economy stumble? With the sanctioning of Russian raw materials and the decoupling from Chinese manufacturing; overall the rolling back / restructuring of globalization, the 2020’s might be the most tumultuous decade since the 1940’s.
Japan started modernizing in around the 1870s and it took them approximately sixty years to reach a state where they could started acting in an imperialist manner. Similarly, China started modernizing in the 1970s and so I wonder if similarly it will take them about sixty years to start acting on theirs. So Japan invaded Manchuria in 1931, will China attack Taiwan around 2030-ish? And will Russia's struggles in Ukraine and punishment from the West possibly lead to a collapse in Russia that makes the way for an aggressor even more extreme than Putin, a Russian Hitler, who promises to rebuild Russian greatness? Who decides to launch a war in the 2040s?
 

Random8145

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No, about a third. And it doesn't seem to have changed their ultimate goal of getting rid of coal in the long term.
Germany is an extremely environmentalist nation. They have one of the largest Green parties I believe and their environmentalism goes back to the 1800s. They enacted the "Energiewendie" to transition to a low-carbon economy which in spite of raising energy prices very high nonetheless has wide public support.
 

Randy Daytona

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No, about a third. And it doesn't seem to have changed their ultimate goal of getting rid of coal in the long term.
From what I hear, their emissions depend on the accounting method. Germany doesn’t count the emissions their coal plants produce when renewables are supplying power during daytime / windy even though the coal plants (unlike natural gas) burn around the clock.

Due to geography, doubt if they will ever be able to produce a majority of their power from renewables.
 

Randy Daytona

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One of the first foreign policy statements was issued by presumed Republican candidate Ron DeSantis which is at odds with the Republican establishment: limited support for Ukraine.

 
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