Europe under extreme duress

[RadicalDude]

Seriously, dude?

You ever think that maybe, just maybe, that condescension and elitist attitude might just be why the SJWs lost this round?

No. I think that argument is specious.

And I never said all Trump voters were morons.

If you would read a book sometime, you'd know that in europe they have parliamentary elections where they have to build a coalition that can govern. It's not a two party system.

If trump had been running under that system he would have gotten annihlated at the polls and been unable to govern. His hardcore fans (who are morons) wouldn't have been able to push him over the top with mainstream republicN candidates running.He'd be a minority in parliament and Paul Ryan or someone would be PM.

Unfortunately thanks to our wonderful primary system, only the most extreme and politically active wing of the party picks the candidate. And I truly do believe the corrupted like Flynn, Sessions and the rest who sold out their morality for a ride to the top on the Pussy-Grabbin train make this country worse by being here. He's a reality star who "talks tough"... it's not hard to see why the less educated and those who feel "slighted" by people in power would vote for him. Morons.

The rest of the republicans panicked, then held their nose and pressed the button. Because anything but Clinton... I could post some other diatribes by members here after the last two elections that didn't see either of you two so riled up about people's opinions of the new president then...

Now shut up and let me voice my opinion in peace! (Wait is that not how it works?)

 

[RadicalDude]

I might add I don't see why you guys get so incensed over perceived attacks on Trump. Not a single one of you wanted him during the primaries. You only got behind him during the post-nomination campaign.

I suspect most of you just hated Clinton so much that you were willing to compromise on personal facts about your candidate that would otherwise be deal-breakers.

It's okay to be a republican or conservative and disagree with some of this insanity.

And it's damn sure okay to call a spade a spade.

 

[HAL Pilot]

I might add I don't see why you guys get so incensed over perceived attacks on Trump. Not a single one of you wanted him during the primaries. You only got behind him during the post-nomination campaign.

I suspect most of you just hated Clinton so much that you were willing to compromise on personal facts about your candidate that would otherwise be deal-breakers.

It's okay to be a republican or conservative and disagree with some of this insanity.

And it's damn sure okay to call a spade a spade.

Bull shit. I was a Ben Carson supporter until the first Republican debate. By the end of the second, I was a a Trump supporter and remained one through the rest of the primaries.

I don't see why yo guys get so incensed over people wanting to Make America Great again while ending the failed social justice crusades.

I suspect you hate Trump so much you refuse to recognize his leading the country out of the last 8 years of failed policies and were willng to put a criminal Hillary in office.

It's okay to be Democrat or liberal and recognize Obama and the SJWs are insane.

It's damn sure okay to call a spade a spade now, especially since the non-SJWs will assume you mean digging tool and not jump to an immediate "you're racists" conclusion.

 

[scoolbubba]

Now not only are Trump supporters all morons (or at least a critical mass of his voting bloc is, apparently), I'm also uneducated and need to read a book.

Maybe if I were just more educated, I'd be as enlightened as @RadicalDude.

I can't help it, it's just what they taught me down in the holler. That plus all the racism and sexism and homophobia. That's me, just a big ole gun boner havin' cousin fuckin' retard.

Like I said, get the fuck over yourself, you prick. I'm well aware of parliamentary electoral procedures and the European coalition style of government.

I'm also aware that, more often than not, our form of government that gridlocks so often (by design) is far preferable to those of us not of the progressive 'if some laws are good, all laws are best!' mindset.

Maybe some of the people on the other side of the aisle are learning the danger of an overactive executive now that their guy isn't the one in charge. About damn time. If that's all that comes out of this experiment, at least there'll be some good.

If you were half as smart as you think you are, you'd take some time to learn about the monolith of people you've made anyone who didn't vote for Hilary out to be. Maybe your side would even have a chance to win an election once they took off their big vagina hats and proposed solutions that didn't involve screaming racism or implying someone is an uneducated hick every time they disagreed with the progressives.

 

[Gatordev]

Does every thread have to turn into a political thread now? Please move this over to whatever dumpster fire is occurring in the Politics Treadmill thread.

 

[Gatordev]

So I guess the answer is yes, then.

Last warning.

 

[Flash]

The first rotation of the British-led NATO battalion stationed in Estonia started arriving last week. This is part of the broader deployment of NATO battalions to Eastern Europe to include; a Canadian-led battalion in Latvia, a German-led battalion Lithuania and a US-led battalion in Poland along with reinvigorating the USMC's role in defending Norway.

 

[Randy Daytona]

Look like the Dutch decided, and Geert doesn't appear to be what they wanted.

Will be interesting to see how Rutte puts together a coalition. As the center parties in Europe continue to fragment, it does seem that these governments could be more and more unwieldy. As Rutte's party only got 33 (down from 41 in the last election) of the needed 76 votes for a coalition, it will likely necessitate 3 more parties to join.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...hat-are-rutte-s-options-after-beating-wilders

http://www.politico.eu/article/dutch-coalition-talks-narrowed-to-4-parties/

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archiv...e-coalition-of-four-parties-for-next-cabinet/

 

[Flash]

Will be interesting to see how Rutte puts together a coalition. As the center parties in Europe continue to fragment, it does seem that these governments could be more and more unwieldy. As Rutte's party only got 33 (down from 41 in the last election) of the needed 76 votes for a coalition, it will likely necessitate 3 more parties to join.

The Dutch system is set up to discourage an outright majority for any one party, the last time one party held a majority of seats in the parliament was 1894-1897, so coalition governments are the norm. Wilders is a bit of a anathema to the other Dutch political leaders so I doubt his party becomes part of the government.

 

[Randy Daytona]

In addition to another terrorist attack today in London, Erdogan warns Europeans they might not be safe in Turkey. Wonder if both of these events will affect the upcoming French elections?

Erdogan Warns Europeans on Their Safety as Tensions Rise With West
“If you go on behaving like that, tomorrow nowhere in the world, none of the Europeans, Westerners will be able to walk in the streets in peace, safely,” Mr. Erdogan said at a meeting in Ankara, the capital.

The outburst was his latest attempt to rally nationalist voters before the tightly contested referendum.

From the New York Times. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/world/europe/turkey-erdogan-referendum-europe.html

 

[Flash]

Sweden just reintroduced conscription, I guess that happens when your neighbor across the Baltic Sea starts to exercise invading your territory and threatens 'consequences' if you join NATO.

 

[Randy Daytona]

French elections are getting close: 1st round is Sunday, 23 April and the 2nd round is Sunday, 7 May. Of note, was watching the France24 news channel and the 2nd round of voting will be held during a long weekend (Monday, 08 May is WW2/Victory in Europe Day) possibly suppressing the vote. Still looking like Le Pen will be one of the two top vote getters and the other, probably Macron, will be the favorite. Like the Austrian election in December 2016, the new leader is likely not to come from one of the long established parties as Europe experiences increased political turmoil.

http://www.france24.com/en/

From Politico Europe:

http://www.politico.eu/article/fren...ial-threat-eu-brussels-worried-marine-le-pen/

 

[Flash]

...Still looking like Le Pen will be one of the two top vote getters and the other, probably Macron, will be the favorite. Like the Austrian election in December 2016, the new leader is likely not to come from one of the long established parties as Europe experiences increased political turmoil.

Denying France had anything to do with the Holocaust, even rhetorically, probably isn't the brightest especially when you've worked for years to distance your party from your father's racist and anti-Semitic past.

 

[Max the Mad Russian]

Indeed. But note that French Jews were relatively safe till 1944. Relatives of my wife were fleeing from Belarus to Belgian Liege and further to West in France in 1941 just before Nazi attack on USSR in June that year, and survived. Their neighbours by village were all executed in ghetto here near Minsk.

 

[Randy Daytona]

Denying France had anything to do with the Holocaust, even rhetorically, probably isn't the brightest especially when you've worked for years to distance your party from your father's racist and anti-Semitic past.

In this turbulent political environment, it will be interesting to see if that comment hurts her.

The French election is turning into a 4 way race: from left to right (Mélenchon, Macron, Fillon, Le Pen)
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...volves-into-four-way-race-as-melenchon-surges

Finally read Michael Houellebecq's novel "Submission" which is about the French 2022 election and an Islamic party winning the election in France. The controversial novel - a best seller in Europe - was released on the day of the Charlie Hebo attack.

An update after the latest attack in France. The election is Sunday (1st round).
An attack in Paris makes the French election even more unpredictable
Marine Le Pen could be the last-minute beneficiary

http://www.economist.com/news/europ...eneficiary-attack-paris-makes-french-election