FAA Military Equivalency Test

[PropAddict]

And does being endorsed for high altitude/high performance in the military cross over to the civilian world? (I.e., if you're qualified to solo a T-34C, can you go to an FBO and rent something with >200HP and take it higher than 20,000?)

With just a T-34 solo, you really can't do anything on civvie street. You need to get winged and get your mil comp commercial certificate first, for it to be legal. Then, you would need to be checked out in whatever aircraft through the FBO first, but yes, you could rent it. If you live near Willow Grove, you can even rent a T-34. As an unofficial perk, I've rented complex A/C from some pretty draconian FBO's that have 10 or 15 hour in model mins to take their complex rentals solo. With the mil comp, I just needed a quick 45 minute checkout.

@ tlord: The application is all online now; has been for a while. It's called IACRA. I think there's a provision for mailing a paper version somehow, but for all intents and purposes, FAA applications are solely done online. If you didn't do it online, chances are your certifying instructor/DPE did it for you online.

 

[BACONATOR]

Unless they changed it in the last 9 months we get:

Commercial-SEL & Helicopter
Instrument Airplane and Helo

In order to get your SEL, you are supposed to have flown your T-34 "checkride" (actually, your last flight) within 12 months of winging. I have known people that have gotten around this limitation though.

Well every IP I've talked to said ASEL commercial and IR, but every recent winger, and my mil-comp paperwork specifically excludes Airplane instrument. I guess I'll find out when I get my card in the mail.

 

[phrogdriver]

Does anyone know how the proposed military IP/CFI equivalency rule proposal has fared?

 

[Gatordev]

I was told it went through, I just haven't had time to see what I need to do to make it happen. An IP buddy was going to do it and pass the word, but I think somewhere between his PCS from Whiting to Corpus, he forgot us. I'll have to send him an email and ask. Or just get an Out and In to Orlando and visit the FSDO.

Huggy, you got any info?

 

[HooverPilot]

This SITE should be able to answer most of the Mil Comp questions. I am not endorsing them, but I have only heard good things about them in the past.

 

[vick]

I bought the Mil Comp to CFI/I software back in January when it looked like the new rules were just about to get signed into effect. If you read the update on Sheppards site the new rules have yet to get signed off (shocker) and they're now not even positive what tests exactly will have to be taken.

I will say that the few times I've spoken with folks from Sheppard on the phone they have been very helpful and their software is very easy to use - they've come up with a very systematic approach to working through the question databases. I'm pretty confident too that if the final lineup of tests required differ from the software package I bought already, they'll stand behind what they're offering and give me the remaining necessary software.

 

[Gatordev]

Gracias. Save that to read at work.

 

[tlord82]

Since we're talking about new FAA procedures, any word on the FAA recognizing our military flight physicals?

Also, anybody know any Flight Surgeons in the SD area who are FAA Aviation Medical Examiners?

 

[HooverPilot]

Since we're talking about new FAA procedures, any word on the FAA recognizing our military flight physicals?

Also, anybody know any Flight Surgeons in the SD area who are FAA Aviation Medical Examiners?

This SITE should be able to answer your question. It's the FAQ sheet from the link posted previously. It has the info you are looking for.

 

[Banjo33]

Wow, according that link, when the rules go into effect, I'll be able to add the multi-engine (centerline thrust restriction) to my Commercial from flying T-2's. I couldn't do it before because I winged like 15 months after my last flight in the T-2.

 

[kilikopela]

Do you have to process all the required paperwork through a Designated Pilot Examiner (DPE) or can you still process it through your local FSDO for free? As a CFII/CGX, I'm trying to help some buddies out and at least sign them off for the written exam. I spoke with the local FSDO and they seemed to want nothing to do with people walking in and processing this sort of request. Is it me or do the FAA FSDOs just don't seem to want to work as hard as they used to? What happened to the days of requesting a FAA examiner from the FSDO give you your checkride vice spending ridiculous $$ for a DPE to do the same thing the gov't would do for free?

 

[jarhead]

figured this thread would suffice to post this question.

first off, I've never flown private & I know very little about private flying & renting planes, so I'm gonna show my ignorance with this question...

second, I want to keep my studying of "gouge" & test taking to a minimum...

so, if I go ahead and get my ATP, can I rent a plane (after I get checked out in it)? or will I still need to do the mil comp to commerical thing to get my SEL & MEL centerline restriction to fly private?

thanks...

SF

 

[HuggyU2]

Jarhead,
I might be wrong, but I think that with respect to a "pilot" certificate, very little has changed (other than the 12 month rule).
So,... getting the CFI certificate won't help.
You must still get a pilot certificate. The easiest was is to do the Mil Comp.
If you are a Hornet pilot, you can get a your Commercial Airplane Multi Engine Land (limited to centerline thrust). With that, you can go rent a multi engine airplane.
You cannot rent a Cessna 172, or any other single engine airplane. At least not until you go find someone to issue you the rating via a few flights and a checkride. (HAL, am I saying this right?)

 

[BACONATOR]

FYI: Helo wingers no longer get Instrument-Airplane.

 

[Banjo33]

Jarhead,
I might be wrong, but I think that with respect to a "pilot" certificate, very little has changed (other than the 12 month rule).
So,... getting the CFI certificate won't help.
You must still get a pilot certificate. The easiest was is to do the Mil Comp.
If you are a Hornet pilot, you can get a your Commercial Airplane Multi Engine Land (limited to centerline thrust). With that, you can go rent a multi engine airplane.
You cannot rent a Cessna 172, or any other single engine airplane. At least not until you go find someone to issue you the rating via a few flights and a checkride. (HAL, am I saying this right?)

You're mostly right. He needs to do the milcomp test to get the rating you described. However, regardless of what aircraft he wants to fly Cessna-150 all the way up to a multi-engine anything, he'll need to do a checkflight. I've been to FBOs that merely required an hour and a half flight with a CFI in a -172 that allowed me to rent their -150/-152/-172. My local FBO here in Quantico wants me to take 3 different tests and do basically a private pilot checkride to all PTS standards.