First flight of the P-8A Poseidon and all things related to transition

[HeyJoe]

P-3 replacement = P-8 + BAMS

So 100 P-8s replace 200 P-3s because of their higher reliability etc... right?

Some of the mission loading is to be taken by the yet-to-be decided Board Area Maritime Surveillance (BAMS) program that will deliver a high endurance UAV to do maritime surveillance. So you could go from a fleet tour in a P-8 to a shore tour in a UAV ground station.....Note: Boeing has already received funding to develop common software.

 

[Gatordev]

Some of the mission loading is to be taken by the yet-to-be decided Board Area Maritime Surveillance (BAMS) program that will deliver a high endurance UAV to do maritime surveillance.

This brings up a question that maybe you know the answer to. If it's not for public consumption, then disregard. If there is some sort of UAV over the ocean providing SSC in a role that a P-3 does now, would other assets be able to call it and get tasking? It would make sense that there's a link back to the cubicle doing the SSC, but would old school UHF get piped into the link and allow for tasking of other units?

I'd hope the eggheads would think of this stuff, but I wonder. More than once I've been "picked up" by some loitering maritime asset that started tasking us from many miles away, and it was far more productive than the knuckle-heads on the ship who could only see 25 miles at a time.

 

[HeyJoe]

Kaneohe looking good for transition to P-8

The Boeing P-8A Poseidon will be arriving in the Aloha State as quickly as four years according to latest reporting.

 

[Uncle Fester]

Nitpick from hell, but... "air squad"?

I see that in civvie writing a lot, using "squad" as short for "squadron". Was that ever a common practice in the Real Navy, or just a silly civvieism?

 

[NavAir42]

Nitpick from hell, but... "air squad"?

I see that in civvie writing a lot, using "squad" as short for "squadron". Was that ever a common practice in the Real Navy, or just a silly civvieism?

Isn't a squad something like 10 people? Me thinks it an unknowing civilianism.

 

[phrogpilot73]

Isn't a squad something like 10 people? Me thinks it an unknowing civilianism.

A squad is comprised of 13 people. (1) Squad Leader, (3) Fire Team Leaders, (3) Automatic Riflemen, (3) Assistant Automatic Riflemen, and (3) Riflemen. At least that's what it is in the USMC, doctrinally. Mileage may vary among other services and also within the USMC...

 

[ea6bflyr]

A squad is comprised of 13 people. (1) Squad Leader, (3) Fire Team Leaders, (3) Automatic Riflemen, (3) Assistant Automatic Riflemen, and (3) Riflemen. At least that's what it is in the USMC, doctrinally. Mileage may vary among other services and also within the USMC...

Ah, the beloved Marine Corps "rules of three"

-ea6bflyr

 

[scoober78]

Yeah...word round the VP-30 campfire is that Boeing has agreed to move up the timeline on P-8 by as much as 18 months in response to P-3C fatigue life issues...

Of course no Naval Aircraft development schedule has EVER been met...so what do you suppose the chances of one being pushed up are?

 

[puck_11]

Yeah...word round the VP-30 campfire is that Boeing has agreed to move up the timeline on P-8 by as much as 18 months in response to P-3C fatigue life issues...

Of course no Naval Aircraft development schedule has EVER been met...so what do you suppose the chances of one being pushed up are?

They're ahead of schedule on the Growler

 

[UMichfly]

They were ahead of schedule on the Growler until I posted this and jinxed it

Fixed that for you. Thanks shipmate

 

[NavAir42]

Yeah...word round the VP-30 campfire is that Boeing has agreed to move up the timeline on P-8 by as much as 18 months in response to P-3C fatigue life issues...

Of course no Naval Aircraft development schedule has EVER been met...so what do you suppose the chances of one being pushed up are?

And thus the battle of the fat kids in the candy store brawl begins as to who gets the P-8 first.

 

[hscs]

What percentage will get P-8's in Hawaii?

Sorry, couldn't resist...

 

[scoober78]

They're ahead of schedule on the Growler

And they still haven't delivered any operational ones yet...and its not an entirely new airframe...your point exactly?

 

[webmaster]

And thus the battle of the fat kids in the candy store brawl begins as to who gets the P-8 first.

+1 So True!!

 

[SemperGumbi]

They're ahead of schedule on the Growler

Superhornet block Growler. The line between the Growler and E/F is actually going to narrow more and more as time goes on, so I don't really put it as a whole new platform, despite the plethora of new systems on it.

But still, BZ for it (at least looking like it will) getting to the fleet on/ahead of time.

But we shall see...