I'm pretty sure that requirement was "relaxed" during the competition, which told me Boeing was going to look really good.
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First flight of the P-8A Poseidon and all things related to transition
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I'm pretty sure that requirement was "relaxed" during the competition, which told me Boeing was going to look really good.
You Sir are destined for jet greatness.
C-5s on the angle? I'd like to see the math on that (there is an assignment for one of you young'uns). Somehow I don't think the Museum sim has the accuracy and fidelity of a level D sim.
I'd second that, considering you can:
-get an F-18 up to about 118,000ft
-stick an F-18 on the runway at 299kts
-pull 12-14 G turns
I think he was joking though about the 'greatness' of the 'feat' he had achieved.
So now you can create your own virtual COD (Heavy) squadron!
Virtual Blue Angels
A virtual fighter squadron
Perfect for someone who does not screen for command! PERS-43 needs a link on thier page to this!
Oak Harbor Holds Public Hearing for P-8A MMA
Story Number: NNS080328-22
Release Date: 3/28/2008 3:31:00 PM
By Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Tucker M. Yates, Fleet Public Affairs Center, Det. Northwest
OAK HARBOR, Wash. (NNS) -- A public hearing for the introduction of the P-8A "Poseidon" Multi-Mission Maritime Aircraft (MMA) and environmental impact statement presentation were held at the Oak Harbor School District office, March 26.
The hearing was held as the Navy prepares to transition from the P-3C Orion to the P-8A from 2012 to 2019. The transition affects the community due to four existing P-3C Patrol Squadrons (VPs) presently in service on nearby Naval Air Station (NAS) Whidbey Island.
This transitional period will lead to between three and seven P-8A squadrons being stationed on the base depending on which of the six alternatives presented by the Navy is selected. The preferred alternative would maintain four squadrons at NAS Whidbey Island.
"Under the requirements for environmental study, we have to look at different options and different alternatives, so for this action we have six different alternatives, all involving the same bases, but differences in the number of squadrons going to each base," said Rick Keys, a project officer for the P-8A Fleet Introduction with U.S. Fleet Forces Command, based in Norfolk.
"[The preferred alternative] meets operational requirements and also, from a cost standpoint, has advantages. [The Office of] the Secretary of the Navy looks at cost, operational requirements and the environmental impact and balances all of those factors."
There are three other Navy and Marine Corps installations around the fleet and eight additional squadrons also involved in the transition, NAS Jacksonville, Fla., NAS North Island, Calif., and Marine Corps Base Hawaii (MCBH) Kaneohe Bay. The same type of hearing will be held at these installations April 1, for MCBH Kaneohe Bay, April 3, for NAS North Island, and April 9, for NAS Jacksonville, as an opportunity for the public to voice their concerns over the environmental and economic impacts this transition will have on their communities.
"We're hoping to tell them what the Navy proposes to do and that is to replace the old P-3 with a newer airplane and explain to them what that airplane is and how it will affect their lives," said Keys. "The Navy looks at all the comments that we get through this process and the public may point out an area we didn't study or where we may have a mistake in our assumptions. That's why this is a draft environmental impact statement and we'll take those inputs we get into making a final environmental impact statement, correcting any errors and looking into anything the public feels we may need to look into."
The transition will reduce the number of aircraft and personnel required to accomplish the VP mission from 120 aircraft to 84 and 4,760 personnel to 3,309, leading to a more cost-effective and efficient force for the squadrons.
The event was split into two sessions. The first was a two-hour information session with display stations featuring the processes and impacts of the transition with subject matter experts to answer any more in-depth questions an attendee might have. This was followed by the two-hour public hearing presided over by Capt. Keith Allred, Navy and Marine Corps Trial Judiciary, Western Judicial Circuit, where members of the local community were afforded the opportunity to voice their comments and concerns with a three-minute time constraint per individual.
John Phillips, NAS Whidbey Island natural resources manager, is acting as environmental liaison between the installation and Fleet Forces.
"With the preferred alternative it's pretty much status quo and business as usual, there'll be new hangars and new infrastructures, but no impact as far as wetlands or anything like that," said Phillips. "If one of the larger alternatives is selected then there is a need to expand the flight line and tarmac in the area where the P-3s currently are, which is surrounded by wetlands almost entirely on three sides."
Members of the local military community were glad the citizens were provided a venue to be educated and speak their mind on the future of the Navy.
"We're happy that we gave the public the opportunity to comment on the future of P-8 at NAS Whidbey Island," said Capt. Gerral David, commanding officer of NAS Whidbey Island.
People who may have missed the public hearing still have an opportunity to comment on the future of P-8A one of three ways. Concerned citizens may visit www.MMAEIS.com, or mail their concerns to Commander, Naval Facilities Engineering Command, Atlantic, Attn: MMA PM, 6506 Hampton Blvd. Norfolk, VA 23508-1278.
Story Number: NNS080328-22
Release Date: 3/28/2008 3:31:00 PM
By Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Tucker M. Yates, Fleet Public Affairs Center, Det. Northwest
OAK HARBOR, Wash. (NNS) -- A public hearing for the introduction of the P-8A "Poseidon" Multi-Mission Maritime Aircraft (MMA) and environmental impact statement presentation were held at the Oak Harbor School District office, March 26.
The hearing was held as the Navy prepares to transition from the P-3C Orion to the P-8A from 2012 to 2019. The transition affects the community due to four existing P-3C Patrol Squadrons (VPs) presently in service on nearby Naval Air Station (NAS) Whidbey Island.
This transitional period will lead to between three and seven P-8A squadrons being stationed on the base depending on which of the six alternatives presented by the Navy is selected. The preferred alternative would maintain four squadrons at NAS Whidbey Island.
"Under the requirements for environmental study, we have to look at different options and different alternatives, so for this action we have six different alternatives, all involving the same bases, but differences in the number of squadrons going to each base," said Rick Keys, a project officer for the P-8A Fleet Introduction with U.S. Fleet Forces Command, based in Norfolk.
"[The preferred alternative] meets operational requirements and also, from a cost standpoint, has advantages. [The Office of] the Secretary of the Navy looks at cost, operational requirements and the environmental impact and balances all of those factors."
There are three other Navy and Marine Corps installations around the fleet and eight additional squadrons also involved in the transition, NAS Jacksonville, Fla., NAS North Island, Calif., and Marine Corps Base Hawaii (MCBH) Kaneohe Bay. The same type of hearing will be held at these installations April 1, for MCBH Kaneohe Bay, April 3, for NAS North Island, and April 9, for NAS Jacksonville, as an opportunity for the public to voice their concerns over the environmental and economic impacts this transition will have on their communities.
"We're hoping to tell them what the Navy proposes to do and that is to replace the old P-3 with a newer airplane and explain to them what that airplane is and how it will affect their lives," said Keys. "The Navy looks at all the comments that we get through this process and the public may point out an area we didn't study or where we may have a mistake in our assumptions. That's why this is a draft environmental impact statement and we'll take those inputs we get into making a final environmental impact statement, correcting any errors and looking into anything the public feels we may need to look into."
The transition will reduce the number of aircraft and personnel required to accomplish the VP mission from 120 aircraft to 84 and 4,760 personnel to 3,309, leading to a more cost-effective and efficient force for the squadrons.
The event was split into two sessions. The first was a two-hour information session with display stations featuring the processes and impacts of the transition with subject matter experts to answer any more in-depth questions an attendee might have. This was followed by the two-hour public hearing presided over by Capt. Keith Allred, Navy and Marine Corps Trial Judiciary, Western Judicial Circuit, where members of the local community were afforded the opportunity to voice their comments and concerns with a three-minute time constraint per individual.
John Phillips, NAS Whidbey Island natural resources manager, is acting as environmental liaison between the installation and Fleet Forces.
"With the preferred alternative it's pretty much status quo and business as usual, there'll be new hangars and new infrastructures, but no impact as far as wetlands or anything like that," said Phillips. "If one of the larger alternatives is selected then there is a need to expand the flight line and tarmac in the area where the P-3s currently are, which is surrounded by wetlands almost entirely on three sides."
Members of the local military community were glad the citizens were provided a venue to be educated and speak their mind on the future of the Navy.
"We're happy that we gave the public the opportunity to comment on the future of P-8 at NAS Whidbey Island," said Capt. Gerral David, commanding officer of NAS Whidbey Island.
People who may have missed the public hearing still have an opportunity to comment on the future of P-8A one of three ways. Concerned citizens may visit www.MMAEIS.com, or mail their concerns to Commander, Naval Facilities Engineering Command, Atlantic, Attn: MMA PM, 6506 Hampton Blvd. Norfolk, VA 23508-1278.
SnipeDude
Cleveland Brown Fan
No, I don't think so. Other impossible "feats of greatness" included buzzing THROUGH the Carrier's hanger deck, the hangers on North Island, or a C-5. It amazed me that someone actually took the time to animate the inside of those things.
I thought the Chair Force was considering picking up the tab on that since they liked how studs performed out of -35. Guess not--sucks, since I honestly think they should just renegotiate the contract and make them ALL C-12s instead of -44s. Just me.
I heard something about an earlier arrival time (subtract 15 months or something) for the Ocho so they don't have to replace wing spars on the red-striped P-3s; nothing truly official though.
Are they considering basing some VP P-8 squadrons at North Island?
No.
From the links posted...
NASNI will be used to host rotating Dets doing training work in the region. No permanent squadron will be placed there.
Are they still thinking of pooling all the jets in one group and then each squadron takes an aircraft when they need it? Also i heard an admiral speak last year and he mentioned that they were thinking of contracting out the maint. like they have done at all the training squadrons. My question for that would be what do they do with all the contractors during deployments do they just bring them along especially to any future war zones this may be a problem having civilians around?