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HuggyU2

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Is there any truth to the story that carrier qual in the vt is dead? If that’s the case it would open a lot of doors to address this
I have no clue but my Navy friends say it's dead. But Navy trains other countries too, right? I'm curious to know how that will be affected.

"Open a lot of doors": do you mean the ability to select a non-carrier trainer?
 

NoMoreMrNiceGuy

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Old info. Jets are coming back up.


Some truth. E-2 studs still go hook down in the T-45 until the Hummer gets ILM.
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ChuckMK23

FERS and TSP contributor!
pilot
Do VT's in T-6 teach AOA approach and landing? I remember doing them to the 'box' at Wolf/Barin back in the day and it was a blast.
 

JTS11

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pilot
Contributor
Aviation Nerd Trivia: in the T-34, when you did No-Flap landings in FAMs, you were doing an AOA approach/landing. Both would put you at 20 units.
My memory may be off, but I recall that AOA fam flight in the T-34 as a stud to be really underwhelming. Prob bc the IP wasn't that confident, and I was just happy landing that fucker with a flare. 😆
 

Gatordev

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pilot
Site Admin
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My memory may be off, but I recall that AOA fam flight in the T-34 as a stud to be really underwhelming. Prob bc the IP wasn't that confident, and I was just happy landing that fucker with a flare. 😆

Yeah, I mis-typed...it's not an AOA landing, just an AOA approach, so the landing is relatively benign. If I recall correctly, the FF AOA approach would but you ~80-85 knots (I'd have to check the FTI), so you don't have a ton of energy left in the flare, but the NF AOA was the same speed, so it was a non-event.

Anytime you would land away from home (RDO, CCX, O/I, etc), you'd always leave the flaps up on landings anyway, so on the IP side NF landings were normal landings and FF landings were the rarer occurrence.
 

JTS11

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pilot
Contributor
Yeah, I mis-typed...it's not an AOA landing, just an AOA approach, so the landing is relatively benign. If I recall correctly, the FF AOA approach would but you ~80-85 knots (I'd have to check the FTI), so you don't have a ton of energy left in the flare, but the NF AOA was the same speed, so it was a non-event.

Anytime you would land away from home (RDO, CCX, O/I, etc), you'd always leave the flaps up on landings anyway, so on the IP side NF landings were normal landings and FF landings were the rarer occurrence.
I wasn't trying to counter your post, but just relaying my memory of that X in a T-34 as a stud...it was cursory.

You obviously know way more having been an IP.
 

sevenhelmet

Low calorie attack from the Heartland
pilot
I loved doing T-34 AOA’s…it just clicked and was fun.
I remember that flight. I already wanted jets, but that flight was when I started to think I might actually have a shot. Had a lot of fun, and got a 5 on my "precision" landings that day- the only time that happened during Primary that I recall. My question to the instructor was "Why don't we always do it that way?" I don't remember his answer.

Today, I fly AOA-based approaches in virtually every aircraft I fly. It's just easier. If the aircraft requires a Vref computation, I'll obviously do that, but it corresponds to a given AOA, so in a pinch, I'll fly that (e.g. flap failure in a single-pilot business jet). More industry standardization and emphasis on AOA approaches would be good for the pilot community writ large, I think.
 
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