Fuel consumption

[e6bflyer]

I never held in the real world, except for IX's... and holding at the boat.

Here, I have had to do it 3 times in the last week because ATC is over-freaking-whelmed. If the airspace in Corpus and Pcola are not good arguments for having MORE training bases that are no 20 miles from 2 more, I I don't know what is.

I have held waiting for emergency traffic to clear the runway, other than that, not so much other than practice. Nice thing about flying the big white sleeping pill was just punch a couple of buttons and the plane does it all by itself, it even draws a nice picture of the holding pattern and entry on the giant moving map display. You can devote all those holding brain cells to higher tasking.
Here at NSE, we are VFR about 75% of the time that we practice holding, so the airspace/controller thing really isn't an issue very much. About half the time we aren't even talking to anyone but ourselves. Good times.

 

[MasterBates]

NGP has been IFR a lot lately, and Corpus INTL has 35-17 Closed, so it is "Fornicating Our Process" to say the least.

 

[cheetah]

The Navy may have burned the gas, but at least I have hundreds of digital pixs from "Lighthouse Tours" and the "Hudson River Run"--whale watching anyone?

Plenty of sightseeing at the end of the fiscal year.

 

[Gatordev]

on my first class cruise i was assigned to the USS Lake Erie and it used approx 600,000 gal of fuel to get from san diego to pearl harbor.

This seems suspect to me. I'd be interested to hear what Steve has to say. Maybe if you include the generators. I'd be surprised the ship could hold that much and still have room for helo gas, water, and ancillary diesel. Then again, maybe I'm out to lunch.

 

[H20man]

I dont have my ship particulars with me, but for the MSC ship I was on, we would burn anywhere from 200-700 barrels a day depending if we were tooling around or making good speed. Here is an example from one of my noon logs:

Tabulation from noon to noon.
Distance Run: 421nm
Avg. Speed: 17.5kts
Fuel Consumed: 686bbl

so thats about 1.6bbls a nautical mile
28,812 gallons a day.

Rounded up it's about 2000nm from Oakland to Honolulu (great circle)

Doing that math thats about 134,000 gallons over a period of about 4.5 days or so.

Then again this is on a larger ship, with 2 medium speed diesels.

The Navy uses gas turbines... not your friend when it comes to fuel economy. But I dont see how it could be 600,000 gallons, unless they were tooling around out in the ocean rather than a direct transit.

 

[PropStop]

The Navy uses gas turbines... not your friend when it comes to fuel economy. But I dont see how it could be 600,000 gallons, unless they were tooling around out in the ocean rather than a direct transit.

maybe they went east? scenic route.

 

[Sarge]

Wonder how much an F-14 blew through in zone 5

The Tomcat burned 2000 pounds per minute in full blower.

 

[Sarge]

Wow... The 60B can barely DUMP fuel faster than you can burn it..(836 up to 1000 PPM) Somehow I think raging around in blower is much more satisfying that seeing the spray in the right mirror...

The F-14 could actually burn it (2000 lbs/min) faster than you could dump it (1400 lbs/min). Always made for some vertigo inducing fun in the marshall stack.

 

[HeyJoe]

The Tomcat burned 2000 pounds per minute in full blower.

With 20,000 lbs max to work with, use of burner had to be managed carefully as you could easily wind up below ladder. In most instances, the only time you had too much fuel was if you were on fire.

 

[hscs]

Is the amount of gas dumped a data point in the NAVRIP cockpit charts???

 

[HeyJoe]

I tell you, i can't go to war without room service and turn down service.

No chocolates on the pillow? ...and soothing music on radio??

 

[PropStop]

No chocolates on the pillow? ...and soothing music on radio??

soothing something anyhow...

 

[MasterBates]

Massage with Happy Ending?

Oh wait, that's for the C2 crew...

 

[PropStop]

Massage with Happy Ending?

I have no idea what you're talking about. This man is crazy, don't listent o him!

 

[E5B]

IMHO.. The prower guys (vs P3s)...

Hans Brix fries prowers too? Soooo Rownry....sooooooo rownry......