Once you sign your oath and the documents are submitted to PERS by your recruiter I would call the NRC and find out who the DCO sponsor is. You will need to keep checking your status with them.
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FY 22 IWC DCO Reserve Board
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If I'm pursuing a 2nd Bachelor's degree will the board look at my GPA from both or just my degree that I have?
I've got a BS in history with a 2.51 GPA, currently working on a BS in mechanical engineering with a 3.56 GPA. Combining them together puts me at roughly 2.9ish. Hoping that they will combine them together so I'm eligible for an IW DCO opportunity.
I've got a BS in history with a 2.51 GPA, currently working on a BS in mechanical engineering with a 3.56 GPA. Combining them together puts me at roughly 2.9ish. Hoping that they will combine them together so I'm eligible for an IW DCO opportunity.
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Do you even have work / military experience?
subreservist
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Your application gpa is determined by a cumulative of ALL college coursework. Any withdrawals (W's) will also factor into it (brings gpa further down than what's determined by the university). Your cumulative will most likely not be what you estimate, but if you meet the minimum, you can apply.
You will need something exceptional in work experience to offset the low gpa.
You will list both degrees, completed and in progress, and the GPAs for each. So when I applied, I listed my BA and that GPA, and then my MA with the projected graduation date and that current GPA. I'm not sure if they combine the GPAs, if both need to qualify, or if they just go based on your last GPA.
Squirrel Girl
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If you aren't sure, why did you answer? It is combined GPA from all college and higher level courses. You can have one course from a university and that will even be factored in to your overall GPA.
Because I don't know what the Navy does or how they calculate it, but I do know how I was asked to list my degrees, both completed and in progress. I never once had to calculate my entire collegiate GPA, only list the individual institutions and the GPAs that I left them with. My GPAs for each degree were completely different. My cumulative GPA for my BA in no way affected the GPA that I now carry for my MA. Additionally, the GPAs that I carried at other institutions did not carry over to my final GPA for my BA. How the Navy computes all of that is not something I am aware of, all I know is that I was required to list the institutions that I attended, the degrees that I received, and the GPAs that I carried. But the GPA of a completed degree has no bearing on an in progress degree's GPA. In short, I answered to be helpful based on what I do know, based on my own experience with this.
There's a heavy degree of confirmation bias, but I didn't talk to a single fellow IW DCO applicant who didn't have a Master's. Is it too late for you to switch from a BS to an MA?
Correct. They will take all of your classes from every school/degree and combine them to compute your GPA.
I got my MBA from a grade non-disclosure school, so I'm dying to know what they did with that..
exNavyOffRec
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As in it is performance based? I had to deal with a school like that before.I got my MBA from a grade non-disclosure school, so I'm dying to know what they did with that..
It is performance-based, but the school doesn't release grades to outside parties (including employers) and the grades themselves are non-traditional: H (highest), S+, S, LP (low pass) and then Fail. There are no plus/minus grades either.
exNavyOffRec
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The school I dealt with was similar but when we talked to the registrar and asked questions like "what do you do if a person is apply for med school, or law school" they then said well actually we do have a way to do a conversion. It is about how they are asked and what it is for and who is asking.
The only employers I have seen to ask about grades were tech ones hiring right out of college for software engineers but I don't know how common that is.
Thanks to being asked that same question a few times, I did some digging through my universities graduate program earlier today. Turns out I might be eligible to apply for a MS in aerospace engineering. I looked into that when I started my undergrad a few years ago and it wasn't an option, so I'm happy that changed.
My undergraduate GPA was not good also, I think 2.8 cumulative between community college and state university with a computer science and engineering technology degree. But I went back and got my MSE and MBA and carried a 3.8ish GPA along with 7 years of technical leadership which I believe is what made the difference. I was even told by an O-5 during a call for a letter of recommendation that he didn't think I was a competitive candidate for IP because of my low undergraduate GPA. Submitted anyway and it worked out for me. I had a withdrawal, a D, and an F in the my first two undergrad semesters after I transferred from CC to state university so don't let that get you down if you have some blemishes. I simply wasn't ready for college and my parents didn't prepare me - neither went to college and my dad wanted me to be an electrician. If you are going to go the IP route, best advice is to get a Masters in something technical obviously but also get Security+ certified. I hadn't done IT work in 14 years prior to submitting my packet but I studied and got certified. I had transitioned from IT to more mechanical engineering and engineering management - also completed an expat technical leadership assignment.
GPA helps a lot of candidates but if you have a solid resume of technical leadership, especially working for fortune 500 companies and a technical masters, I believe you can offset a bad undergraduate GPA.
That's reassuring to hear. On top of having my MS in 2-3 years, I will also have a few years with one of the biggest management consulting firms. Then throw in 9 years of AD military time and 2-3 years of Reserve time as an IS by the time I'm ready to apply. I think I might stand a decent shot. And I've got the benefit of knowing several O6's that would right me a LOR.
exNavyOffRec
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The OIC that you would be working for will hold the most weight, others could love you, but if that OIC isn't impressed selection will be difficult.