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FY20 Oct. 28, 2019 SNA/NFO Board

NCCGT

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OSONE you are active duty right?
Because i'm not and my recruiter told me 400 words.

I feel like there's a lot of confusion around what the boards are looking for, at least as far as word count is concerned, because the different boards give more or less weight to the motivational statement. Also, the civilian form doesn't give a word count suggestion, so then you have recruiters throwing out different word count suggestions. All this leads to a lot of confusion around what civilian applicants should be targeting.
 

RubaDub

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I feel like there's a lot of confusion around what the boards are looking for, at least as far as word count is concerned, because the different boards give more or less weight to the motivational statement. Also, the civilian form doesn't give a word count suggestion, so then you have recruiters throwing out different word count suggestions. All this leads to a lot of confusion around what civilian applicants should be targeting.

That seems very frustrating regarding the board members and future applicants. Uniformity is the currency of the military and a lack of it stands out. Although, with roughly 19 active duty members on this last board, we probably had a very low impact.
 

FormerRecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
Update for all on ProRec N "Do Not Return", the board has advised the aviation program manager "anyone with an alcohol related incident is automatically not getting selected and not to resubmit at all".

This comment is extremely misleading. What is your source? Did you "hear" from a guy who "heard" from another guy? Is the ARI limit set or "within a certain period"? Is it only ARI and not drug, legal etc.?
 

NCCGT

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This comment is extremely misleading. What is your source? Did you "hear" from a guy who "heard" from another guy? Is the ARI limit set or "within a certain period"? Is it only ARI and not drug, legal etc.?

Exactly my thoughts. Pretty vague statement with no clarifying details. I'm interested to hear more.
 

1812TC

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This comment is extremely misleading. What is your source? Did you "hear" from a guy who "heard" from another guy? Is the ARI limit set or "within a certain period"? Is it only ARI and not drug, legal etc.?

My OR, Chief, spoke directly to the program manager, who stated and sent me the above quotations.
 

DefiningFire

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In the event that everyone here completed the same (most recent) application, there are clear instructions to keep your statement between 200-250 words. I can identify anything less than or more than that a lack of attention to instruction.

Lack of attention relative to active duty if they were told explicitly that? Sure. I think as someone else mentioned, there is a lack of uniformity for this part in terms of what the actual standard is and that is extremely frustrating. My personal statement form (as a civilian) had questions on it and it said to answer each with 4-6 sentences each. I don't think the issue is really any person being at fault for not following guidelines as much as it is there is a lack of clear and uniform guidelines for everyone and some people get misdirected or have to basically "wing it".
 

DefiningFire

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See attached for Active Duty personal statement instructions.

This statement even says to limit your response to each SECTION, not statement s a whole, to 200-250 words. My interpretation then is that you would have around 600-750 words following those guidelines.
 

Acsantosus

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This statement even says to limit your response to each SECTION, not statement s a whole, to 200-250 words. My interpretation then is that you would have around 600-750 words following those guidelines.
Each section means personal statement as one section and honor courage commitment as the second section. So 200-250 for each of those sections
 
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