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Good Prowler Porn: Around the Boat

Brett327

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I've got a buddy that bought into the whole "Technically" they're required at all times line of thinking and wasn't wearing his gloves when his Phrog was shot down. As fire started to consume the aircraft (and they were in the process of landing), his hands got severly burned. He wears gloves all the time now.

I hear you. As long as you know that going in and are cool with it, I think it's up to the individual to decide (unless the Boss is watching). It's not even something that the NATOPS Es in my community emphasize.

Brett
 

KBayDog

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I wear 'em all the time, not just because it is required by 3710, but because Mr. Murphy will visit the one time I don't wear them.

I also take off my wedding band whenever I go near an aircraft. I plan to leave the Corps with 10 fingers, and if I don't, it's not going to be because I got lazy and did not remove my band.

(Yes, I read the Approach article about a certain Harrier pilot from ~two years ago; no need to link to it.)
 

nittany03

Recovering NFO. Herder of Programmers.
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If there's one thing I'm anal about it's wearing flight gear correctly. I'm too paranoid to even cut the fingers out of my gloves. I figure there'll be one time in my career I need it, so might as well build up the habit patterns. I'm so used to flying with gloves that it feels weird if I don't have them.
 

phrogpilot73

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I hear you. As long as you know that going in and are cool with it, I think it's up to the individual to decide (unless the Boss is watching). It's not even something that the NATOPS Es in my community emphasize.
I agree that it really is up to the individual in the end. I always wore my gloves, but not because I was afraid of fire. My hands sweat ALOT, and the gloves kept them from getting slippery while trying to fly. That being said, you're also supposed to roll your sleeves down, but in the summertime and when I was in Iraq - I'd have my sleeves still rolled up, and the cuffs of my gloves rolled down. It made it easier to get a little semi-cooling airflow down my sleeve when I stuck my hand out the window.
 

A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
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Aren't flight gloves required for take-offs and landings anymore?
They were always "required", but some maneuver room was allowed when flying as it's too hard to light up a cigarette while wearing gloves .... :)

A little more seriously, did you ever try to get out of a parachute harness in the water while wearing gloves (the leather side gets very slippery) ?? Or worse, at night?? Or try to find some cockpit switches by the touch 'n feel method at night when flying formation on someone's wing or in the goo or taxiing on the roof @ night?? That's why some of us cut the fingers out of the gloves ... better "tactile" ability.

I didn't want to ruin a good pair (?), so I just went hands bare-neked, fully aware of the potential downside as well as the potential upside.

When flying Adversary in the Reserves and NOT at the BOAT, I cut the fingers out of one pair, 'cause all the guys @ TopGun did it and I though it looked "cool". Then I decided it looked "stupid" and I went back to either gloves "on" or flying "bare-neked" -- when feet dry. :)
 

phrogpilot73

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You need to learn to relax ... while trying to fly ... :D
I'll be the first to admit that I tried to squeeze the black out of the stick as a young 2P... Maybe I permanently damaged my sweat glands, 'cause they kept sweating! At least I didn't squeeze the stick so hard as a nugget that I broke the ICS trigger, leading to a call sign... :D
 

HeloBubba

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I wear 'em all the time, not just because it is required by 3710, but because Mr. Murphy will visit the one time I don't wear them.

Which was always my thinking. Heck, I didn't even trust my collar to stay up so I always wore a nomex hood under my helmet (which you can see clearly here:

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the hood also served a purpose to keep the cold air off your neck when you had to stick your head into the slipstream to keep your eyes on a target. :)

On the other hand, I fully buy into A4s points about the importance of "feel" when it is dark or you can't risk a peek inside the cockpit.
 

cosmania

Gitty Up!
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I always wore gloves and had all the tactile input that I needed. I could find all the switches and knobs that I had to find. If you start flying with the gloves and that's all you know, then it will feel fine. When I would jump in the sim without gloves, that's when things felt funny. Those switches are jagged. Yikes!
 

ChuckMK23

FERS and TSP contributor!
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Random old guy complaint: with the introduction of the new-style checklists with the 60 R/S I found it a complete PITA to use them while wearing gloves.

What's different with the checklists now?
 

MasterBates

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And they are now spiral-bound on top, vice being held together with "blue brain clips" on the left side.

The old one was far superior in the 60B cockpit.

I think I like it for the T-45, but I am not that far into the syllabus here.
 

Rasczak

Marine
awesome video! First time I've seen how much work actually goes into landing on a carrier.
Time frame...3:32
 
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