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FormerRecruitingGuru
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Of course NFO to Pilot is a "possibility", but I've seen too many recruiters sell that route as almost a guarantee.
Seniuram
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Ima be the Grinch here but, no one on here is going to be able to get you a retest. Yes, it sucks that you failed. Happens to a lot of people. As @andrewt said, go bother your recruiter. But before that, go to a civilian doctor and pass 100% DP so you have a leg to stand on. Probably won’t help but it’s something.
Take the AF slot. You are young and just because you did not get Pilot out of the gate does not mean you are never going to be a military pilot. Don't give up so easily.
I'm not understanding the MEPs thing as the people at MEPS are supposed to ask if you if you wear glasses and will tell you when you need to wear them. Anyways.
Why can you not have your recruiter send a medical read to MEPS with you civilian medical doctor paperwork showing your vision scores from a recent test? If your recruiter is not willing or able to help you, go to his or her boss, who would be the Commander (usually an O5 or O6) of the recruiting district where you are located. You can find that person here: http://www.cnrc.navy.mil/pages-nrd/regions/nrc-commands.html
If all else fails, speak with your elected official who represents the district in which you live. They have a way of making things happen when other people are lazy.
As with anyone whom you contact, be prepared to jump through your ass to get things done. I had to ride my Reserve officer recruiter like a pony in order to get things done. Remember these people have lives as well and you are one of thousands. That is, if you fall to the way side, there will be someone else to take your place.
Also, search around the Internet. There are thousands of posts and threads on this same topic.
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FormerRecruitingGuru
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This has been discussed a few times. MEPS won’t entertain retakes, as it’s a USMEPCOM policy. Also, N3M has stopped taking paperwork/exams from civilian eye doctors since about 2015...
There has to be a way around or through this. I'm not convinced
No, this is USMEPCOM policy on depth perception when the applicant does not have their corrective lenses: From para (4), p 38 of
http://www.mepcom.army.mil/Portals/112/Documents/PubsForms/Regs/r-0040-001.pdf :
"Note: If the applicant wears corrective lenses and does not have them, attempt to give him/her the depth perception test. If he/she cannot successfully pass Group B, do not fail the applicant. Annotate in item 73 that applicant did not have corrective lenses and must bring them in to complete depth perception test."
It is bad form to continually quote policies which are incorrect. This is not a retake. This test is not complete.
That said, how the applicant uses this information is up to him. However, his recruiter should be liaising with MEPS to inform them that, according to their policy, he should not have failed; he should be marked as incomplete.
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Well looky there. Someone actually quoted the real f*cking policy. The particulars start on page 41.
FormerRecruitingGuru
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I apologize for missing out this important detail. I can personally attest that I was able to get an applicant a DP retake when he got a prescription and the same with others. The OP is only telling us his story/perspective and might not be telling us the full story.
The OR should be requesting an "Inspect physical" to include a depth perception test with rx glasses.
A post that's probably helpful to no one, but...
Back in 2009 when I was getting my FAA medical, the nurse administrating the exam kept trying to make me do everything without my glasses. I finished the eye exam without needing them, but he made a comment about how I might be developing a depth perception problem. I had my Navy eye exam within a month prior, so I knew I was fine and just replied back I was having trouble focusing. He didn't really believe me and kind of harumpfed, but we moved on.
Fast-forward to this year with the same guy and I muddled my way through the far distance, but then started with the near distance test. "Is that a U?" "Just put your glasses on, son."
There were no DP concerns during the rest of the exam.
For those interested on who the nurse is and why even your worst day is probably better than his worst day, enjoy.
Back in 2009 when I was getting my FAA medical, the nurse administrating the exam kept trying to make me do everything without my glasses. I finished the eye exam without needing them, but he made a comment about how I might be developing a depth perception problem. I had my Navy eye exam within a month prior, so I knew I was fine and just replied back I was having trouble focusing. He didn't really believe me and kind of harumpfed, but we moved on.
Fast-forward to this year with the same guy and I muddled my way through the far distance, but then started with the near distance test. "Is that a U?" "Just put your glasses on, son."
There were no DP concerns during the rest of the exam.
For those interested on who the nurse is and why even your worst day is probably better than his worst day, enjoy.
I was in the Air Force for a couple years before switching over to the Navy. During that time, I failed the DP test many times (once at MEPS and multiple times when I tried to cross-train to an enlisted flying slot). I was always given the electronic test (the one where you look into the machine and have to tell which of the 5 circles appear closest to you). I could get through about 3 of the required 15ish lines. When I went to MEPS for the Navy, I failed once again and was DQ'ed from any flying slot. My awesome recruiter set me up an appointment to go directly to NAMI to perform the DP test there. The NAMI DP test is different. You use a physical booklet and 3D glasses. It is MUCH easier IMO (I passed easily). I am now in P'cola awaiting flight training and have used that test every time my DP has been tested (NAMI before OCS, at OCS, and at my actual NAMI physical).
The point is, IF you are able to schedule the test again, I believe you can ask for this test in particular (I think it's called the RANDOT test) as it is one of the approved DP tests. As someone who never thought it was possible to become a pilot for the same reason, I understand how important it is to pass and become qualified to be a pilot. Good luck!!
The point is, IF you are able to schedule the test again, I believe you can ask for this test in particular (I think it's called the RANDOT test) as it is one of the approved DP tests. As someone who never thought it was possible to become a pilot for the same reason, I understand how important it is to pass and become qualified to be a pilot. Good luck!!
FormerRecruitingGuru
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mitebcool77
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If your recruiter sent you to NAMI for the DP test, why didnt you just take the whole physical? Curious because I'll be getting the NAMI physical next month in lieu of MEPS since I live in Pensacola.
FormerRecruitingGuru
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