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Guys...get ready
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No, there's really not all that much you can study before hand unless its Regs. There's enough time to study there, and like everyone else said its straightforward.
Okay, First off this new thing only is affecting the last part of '04 Navy SNAs in API. Right now, everyone else is safe so the vast majority of people can stop wigging out.
For '04 SNAs that have not started API yet-
Right now they are pumping people through almost as soon as they get here. I classed up in 3 weeks, but know people who have classed up in 2 and 1.
Yes, Get the API books as soon as you can down here and dive right into AERO 1 and weather (and more if you finish with those). Obviously there is only so much you can do before you actually show up to class, but being well pre-read can help. Some of the instructors are good, some leave you wishing you had other instructors because their teaching style doesn't always match up with your learning style.
You will be going through IFS beforehand so you should have a general idea of the concepts. Knowing the Jeps book helps for the concepts.
The NSS is currently 42.5. Academically, the NSS varies for each test. Navy SNAs are no longer compared to anyone else but navy SNAs (at least for right now). They cross out the computer generated NSS next the the Navy SNAs name and write in what they got when compared to other SNAs. Recently, they decided not to factor in the PRT for Navy SNAs because allegedly they found that there were some people who were under the min NSS academically but they smoked the PRT and that brought them up above a 42.5 (don't know if that is the real reason, but thats the way its been done for the last few classes). For Navy SNAs, they decided to take the 6% of the total NSS the PRT makes up for everyone else and add an extra percentage point of weight to each of the academic classes.
So far the ratio of DORs to actual attrites is approximatly 3:1. Last count put them at about having half the number of SNAs gone from the program that they were originally looking for no word on wheter or not they are going to stop if they reach that number. The number of times you will get asked for DOR requests is numerous (sometimes more then once a day). If you don't want to be in the program, get out in A pool. If you do want to be in the program, ignore that feeling that no one really cares if you are there or not, study up, and press on. 98s and 100s are possible, and it is also possible to recover from a failing grade (at least for right now).
If after everything, things don't work out remember its not your fault. ITS THE NEEDS OF THE NAVY!!!
For '04 SNAs that have not started API yet-
Right now they are pumping people through almost as soon as they get here. I classed up in 3 weeks, but know people who have classed up in 2 and 1.
Yes, Get the API books as soon as you can down here and dive right into AERO 1 and weather (and more if you finish with those). Obviously there is only so much you can do before you actually show up to class, but being well pre-read can help. Some of the instructors are good, some leave you wishing you had other instructors because their teaching style doesn't always match up with your learning style.
You will be going through IFS beforehand so you should have a general idea of the concepts. Knowing the Jeps book helps for the concepts.
The NSS is currently 42.5. Academically, the NSS varies for each test. Navy SNAs are no longer compared to anyone else but navy SNAs (at least for right now). They cross out the computer generated NSS next the the Navy SNAs name and write in what they got when compared to other SNAs. Recently, they decided not to factor in the PRT for Navy SNAs because allegedly they found that there were some people who were under the min NSS academically but they smoked the PRT and that brought them up above a 42.5 (don't know if that is the real reason, but thats the way its been done for the last few classes). For Navy SNAs, they decided to take the 6% of the total NSS the PRT makes up for everyone else and add an extra percentage point of weight to each of the academic classes.
So far the ratio of DORs to actual attrites is approximatly 3:1. Last count put them at about having half the number of SNAs gone from the program that they were originally looking for no word on wheter or not they are going to stop if they reach that number. The number of times you will get asked for DOR requests is numerous (sometimes more then once a day). If you don't want to be in the program, get out in A pool. If you do want to be in the program, ignore that feeling that no one really cares if you are there or not, study up, and press on. 98s and 100s are possible, and it is also possible to recover from a failing grade (at least for right now).
If after everything, things don't work out remember its not your fault. ITS THE NEEDS OF THE NAVY!!!
This is purely rumor...take it for what it is worth. But I have heard that there are no plans to do away with the current NSS mins for Navy SNA's any time soon. Even though the original goal was to slash FY04 pilots, it is starting to look like FY05 guys aren't as safe as some people say.
All we need is a campfire and a flashlight.
PaulMason81
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Zippy,
Are they really asking people to DOR? that's crazy..
What is happeneing with the guys that DOR in A-pool? or API... are they still going home?
Are they really asking people to DOR? that's crazy..
What is happeneing with the guys that DOR in A-pool? or API... are they still going home?
gregsivers said:
If you really want to do something before you start, I'd suggest writing the ELOs out on index cards. That way when you get into the classes you only have to write the answers on the back. Will save you time studying.
Other than that, I'd agree that there isn't much you can do. API is certainly passable if you haven't ever looked at the books before you begin.
Don't kid yourselves abvout the whiz wheel guys. Just about everyone in the Prowler goes flying with one. We ordered desert brown wheels which we hung around our necks for OIF and OEF flights. That thing has saved my bacon on numerous occasions. Just kidding, but hey, good times, right?squeeze said:
Brett
PaulMason81 said:
Yep, they ask us if anyone wants to DOR.
NASC CO did it, BOLTC instructor did it, the swim/pt guys do it, the LCDR giving the welcome brief did it etc etc etc. They tell you aviation isn't for everyone and there is nothing wrong with it, and if you chose to come here to avoid going swo, maybe you should think about it.
Bottom line, They have more SNAs (From the '04 class) then they want/need and they are looking to get ride of them any way possible. screw ups, academics, DORs.
It appears that some DORs are going home, and others are getting redesignated depending on their skills and availability of billets. I know someone who went General Aviation and allegedly there are supply spots open right now because they cut too deep previously.
No, I have not heard anything about the rumor that was floating around here recently that all DORs are going to be sent to Africa or the Middle East. However, the most entertaining rumor I heard going around today was that they will be doing away with the NSS starting in/with '05.
PaulMason81
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Zippy...
Thanks for your reply, i had been trying to get information on that for a while
Thanks for your reply, i had been trying to get information on that for a while
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