I really enjoyed my tour as an FRS instructor, although it's been awhile (85-88). HS-10 at NASNI
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I really enjoyed my tour as an FRS instructor, although it's been awhile (85-88). HS-10 at NASNI
I've heard good things about other FRS squadrons, such as (though they no longer exist) the old S-3 Viking FRS, VS-41. As a stud at VAW-120 I was treated worse than any of the VT's I went through prior to that. Going back as an IP was bad....I didn't chose the RAG, it was chosen for me. My CO at the time reccomended me for the FRS and that was all it took. The FRS needed at least one IP to go there and none of us from 30 or 40 wanted to go. I was supposedly written in to go to VT-9 as an IP. My CO meant well, thought he was doing me a favor but it was not good for me at all. My personality and that of E-2 NFO's types as a whole do not mix at all.
I'll tell though, from my perspective, VT-6 is a great squadron to fly with and work with. I'm not under them but from what all I've seen, love it.
MasterBates
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VAW-120 is it's own unique animal as it is also "undergrad" training for both NFOs and COD AC.
I had heard horror stories about "VT-120" and have approached it with an open mind, if it means anything, the new CO (COD Guy) seems intent on changing that mentality. There has been a lot more "stupid little jobs" stuff here than any other VT/HT squadron I have been at.
To date, still treated better than HSL-East RAG though. At least as far as none of the 'if you don't know trivia X you suck" treatment.
I had heard horror stories about "VT-120" and have approached it with an open mind, if it means anything, the new CO (COD Guy) seems intent on changing that mentality. There has been a lot more "stupid little jobs" stuff here than any other VT/HT squadron I have been at.
To date, still treated better than HSL-East RAG though. At least as far as none of the 'if you don't know trivia X you suck" treatment.
Proof you're not an NFO in -120. :icon_tong
MasterBates
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Me drive bus.
NFO work with majic doohickes in back of bus
NFO work with majic doohickes in back of bus
Ah, yes. The traditional "gear up, clean up, shut up, we'll call you when it's time to head for Marshal" school of E-2 piloting.
MasterBates
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phrogpilot73
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In the end of the day, he's just jealous...You say that like there is something wrong with that.
You say that like there is something wrong with that.
Christ, no. Meat-stick actuators should stay in their box, window-lickers should stay in theirs. This "fourth operator" thing will be the death of us all.
MasterBates
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The universal EEEW reaction when the French dude told us about that today was comical to watch amongst the "E2s or Bust" camp. (I knew about it already)
I remember hearing something about the new Hawkeyes that the pilots will have a console and the ability to help the NFOs. Is that right?
Edit: "fourth operator." got it
Edit: "fourth operator." got it
Just FYI, E-2 drivers can become CAG's as well. My last CAG was Capt Klunder, E-2 pilot and overall, a good man. Though I did get to see him pissed where he actually raised his voice...a rare moment as far as I was concerned. He was Skipper of VAW-116 prior to that.
The right seat gets into the act especially during EMCON recoveries. The E-2D is likely to involve the front cockpit even more by using the front seat as another station (a la EA-6B) so don't think you'll just be driving the bus.
As to career progression, here's CAG-3 (an E-2 pilot) in 2008
080114-N-2984R-141 PERSIAN GULF (Jan. 14, 2008) Capt. Fredrick Pawlowski, assigned to the "Sea Hawks" of Carrier Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 126 [actuall, he was CAG at the time] pilots an E-2C Hawkeye off the flight deck of the Nimitz-class nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75), marking his 6,000th logged flight hour as a naval aviator. Truman and embarked Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 3 are underway on a scheduled deployment in support of Operations Iraqi Freedom, Enduring Freedom and maritime security operations, in the 5th Fleet area of responsibility. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Ricardo J. Reyes (Released)
080507-N-2858S-063 RHODES, Greece (May 7, 2008) Capt. Fredrick Pawlowski, commander, Carrier Air Wing 3, tours a group of foreign dignitaries and invited guests from the Island of Rhodes around the flight deck of the aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN75) during a sunset reception. The reception was held to thank the Island of Rhodes for hosting the carrier during their most recent port visit. Truman is assigned to 6th Fleet and conducting theater security cooperative activities in the eastern Mediterranean. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Justin Smelley (Released)
The right seat gets into the act especially during EMCON recoveries. The E-2D is likely to involve the front cockpit even more by using the front seat as another station (a la EA-6B) so don't think you'll just be driving the bus...
As to career progression, here's CAG-3 (an E-2 pilot) in 2008...
Yep, thus the "Fourth Operator" discussion afore. How exactly we're going to make use of that scope has been a topic of lively discussion...safe to say, most of the Old School single-anchor types are looking at it askance.
Poodle is well known to those of us who were around -120 during his tenure as skipper.
A4sForever said:RADM Lyle Bull, a former OCS grad, Whale B/N, and one of the initial 6 B/N cadre for the nascent A-6 Intruder, became the CO of the CONNIE in the early 80's after serving as CO of a fleet oiler or fast support ship -- can't remember.
That used to be the progression when your "number" came up for potential CV Skipper -- a deep draft command (usually a fleet auxiliary) and if successful there (some crashed & burned as they ran 'em aground or had collisions) you moved on to command the seagoing bird farm.
Still true. Deep Draft commands include both ships that deliver groceries and other things, command ships and amphibs like LSD/LPD. Current CO of IKE is an NFO (answering earlier question) who had USS Nashville as his deep draft. John Snedeker was also a B/N who commanded USS Iwo Jima. SWOs haven't broken into CVN/CV commands, but they do "share" the Amphib commands typically alternating with aviators (including NFOs). Aviators can also go from command of big deck Amphibs to be the Commodore of the PHIBRON (0-6 billet). I know two helo pilots (one HSL and the other HS) in recent past who got to be Phibrons twice when illness befell others and an experienced commander was needed. Also know an E-2 pilot admiral who achieved flag rank through the Amphib/PHIBRON path.