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Hawkeyes!

Alpha_Echo_606

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100805-N-6106P-001 JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (Aug. 5, 2010) Lt. Rocky Argobright, an instructor pilot assigned to Carrier Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 120, completes his walk-around inspection before conducting a carrier field landing practice mission. (U.S. Navy photo by Clark Pierce/Released)
 

Beans

*1. Loins... GIRD
pilot
The three NFOs sit side by side for a REASON (vice all three facing forward with individual scopes/panels) or at least I've been told that.

As the "buletproof" Terminal LT/2P of the HPU, I do not like this plan of making me control anything. Being able to see a watered down scope to gain SA I like.

MB, I don't claim to know about how the E-2 CRM works, but does the "this guy, not that guy" issue go beyond what can be solved with a 60B-like "RPT OTHER?"
 

MasterBates

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I don't think they have a RPT OTHER but they can light up guys on the other dudes screen. Easier just to reach over and point I'd think.

(but then again, I don't know how to turn the damn system on, nevermind use it)
 

cclement

New Member
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Can't really contribute to the current conversation, but just wanted to say I selected Hawkeyes from VT-4 last week. Not gonna lie, pretty excited to get to VAW-120 in a few months and get started.
 

desertoasis

Something witty.
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Can't really contribute to the current conversation, but just wanted to say I selected Hawkeyes from VT-4 last week. Not gonna lie, pretty excited to get to VAW-120 in a few months and get started.

Two months into class and I get more excited to get out to the fleet every day. This platform is pretty stinkin' cool.
 

Uncle Fester

Robot Pimp
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MB, I don't claim to know about how the E-2 CRM works, but does the "this guy, not that guy" issue go beyond what can be solved with a 60B-like "RPT OTHER?"

I don't think they have a RPT OTHER but they can light up guys on the other dudes screen. Easier just to reach over and point I'd think.

(but then again, I don't know how to turn the damn system on, nevermind use it)

We have a function called INTER COMM which flashes a little frame around the track you're looking at to everyone else. It's pretty common to have a conversation like: "Hey, make a call on this guy in the north." "What guy in the north?" "This one...with the flash." "I don't see him." At which point, you lean over and look at his scope and realize he's zoomed in and can't see the inter comm flash. Stuff like that. How do you do that for a guy in the copilot seat?
 

Boomhower

Shoot, man, it's that dang ol' internet
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Can't really contribute to the current conversation, but just wanted to say I selected Hawkeyes from VT-4 last week. Not gonna lie, pretty excited to get to VAW-120 in a few months and get started.

Congratulations! I'm not going to lie to you, 120 sucks, but make it through this very large hurdle and you will be in good shape. (I say this because it sucked for me as a student. Though, I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to systems and engineering type things. But, I managed. Some guys made it look easy.)

It's amazing how times have changed. Ten years ago, they drug just about everyone in my RAG class to 120 kicking and screaming. We all wanted to blow shit up. My dream sheet in VT-10 said, "...anything but Hawkeyes." No kidding. Now, they have to turn guys down. Weird.
 

Boomhower

Shoot, man, it's that dang ol' internet
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The three NFOs sit side by side for a REASON (vice all three facing forward with individual scopes/panels) or at least I've been told that.

As the "buletproof" Terminal LT/2P of the HPU, I do not like this plan of making me control anything. Being able to see a watered down scope to gain SA I like.

I always thought the only value in having a scope in the cockpit would be for general SA for the pilots, letting them monitor ownship for traffic and for controlling HCA's. We had a pilot on my first cruise that could control Marshall better than any NFO or ships controller could, and I maintain that with a little more training the pilots would always be better at controlling HCA's than we (NFO's) would.

Pilots need to spend their first fleet tour mastering this aircraft from an airmanship standpoint; not a controllers standpoint, that's what the Navy pays NFO's for. If a pilot is a fantastic controller, but his landing grades suck, where does he fall in the rankings of the future? Before or after the guy that can't make a "two groups, range" call to save his life, but can throw a 4.0 landing at night on a pitching deck every time?
 

BigIron

Remotely piloted
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At least some legacy platform is getting the CNS/ATM cockpit.....

 

PropAddict

Now with even more awesome!
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We've got CNS/ATM trickling into our cockpits in the Warpig. It's got a bunch of functions hidden 5 or 6 menus deep, which leads to a lot of heads down, but compared to the old GPS, this system is money.

Looks like the E2 has an even better integration.
 

HooverPilot

CODPilot
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Super Moderator
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The CNS/ATM mod (along with rewire & new props) took 10 years off the COD. The Lot 4 aircraft are awesome to fly!
 

MasterBates

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CNS/ATM is lightyears better than the Steam E-2C/NU, which was so bad of a scan, allegedly the plane needs a waiver from the FAA to fly in the US Airspace system (probably urban legend, but believable).

So what do they put in the E-2D? Not CNS/ATM, but some system that got cooked up via the Prime Contractor and NAVAIR. I've not flown it, but I've sat in it, and went "so when do these get CNS/ATM?".. To be told "never".
 

VetteMuscle427

is out to lunch.
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CNS/ATM is lightyears better than the Steam E-2C/NU, which was so bad of a scan, allegedly the plane needs a waiver from the FAA to fly in the US Airspace system (probably urban legend, but believable).

So what do they put in the E-2D? Not CNS/ATM, but some system that got cooked up via the Prime Contractor and NAVAIR. I've not flown it, but I've sat in it, and went "so when do these get CNS/ATM?".. To be told "never".

<SIGH> Comment fail.
 

Alpha_Echo_606

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120201-N-IC228-410 ATLANTIC OCEAN (Feb. 2, 2012) An E-2 Hawkeye from Carrier Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 123 prepares to land aboard the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (CVN 65) while conducting exercises in preparation for the ship's last scheduled deployment later this year. (U.S. Navy photo by Lt. Cmdr. Corey Barker/Released)
 

Alpha_Echo_606

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Aircraft to launch from the flight deck aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson.

ARABIAN SEA (Feb. 1, 2012) An SH-60F Sea Hawk helicopter assigned to Helicopter Anti-Submarine Squadron (HS) 15 lifts off as an E-2C Hawkeye assigned to Carrier Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 125 prepares to launch from the flight deck aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70). Carl Vinson and Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 17 are deployed to the U.S. 5th Fleet area of responsibility. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman George M. Bell/Released)
120201-N-ZI635-271
 
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