I said this to a girl in college, and it didn't work out.
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Hornet vs F35
- Thread starter blackngold
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One man, one bomb, one hourJump jet has such a 1980s/early 1990s ring to it. I bet they love it when they are called that
"say capes and playtime"
"one tiny bomb and 28 seconds"
The reason those big decks exist are so they free up Navy carriers to do other things. It was a huge food fight going all the way back to the WWII/Cold War when Marine aircraft had to be shored based and the Navy wasn’t able to consistently support the FMF due to a lack of shipping (I know, shocking). So unless you want to have a bunch more $14B carriers running around with just Marine aircraft (which we can’t afford) then this is the intermediate solution. Most of our allies operate these variants as well, because they can’t afford $14B super-carriers, either.
But you knew that right?
GroundPounder
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Mistakes were made. You let them figure all that in the post mission debrief.
The problem is that the debrief notes go to all her friends, as well.
Instead of making them survivable, we need to make them expendable. Develop a kit to rapidly convert old tanker ships into temp airfields. Fill the tanks with foam so it is unsinkable. About $40M per ship. What does an F35B cost, anyway?
Oil tanker - Wikipedia
Instead of making them survivable, we need to make them expendable. Develop a kit to rapidly convert old tanker ships into temp airfields. Fill the tanks with foam so it is unsinkable. About $40M per ship. What does an F35B cost, anyway?
Oil tanker - Wikipedia
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There are more things on those ships than just aircraft. It’s a literal floating FOB with integrated C2, medical, logisitics, fires, supply, maintenance, cyber, intel, communications, and aviation capabilities. All of which were developed after hard lessons learned in numerous conflicts. So yeah, a “floating tanker” ain’t gonna cut it.
Sure, the ESG can stand in when real world events take a wrecking ball to GFM and the CSGs have to be moved around. The ESG can babysit in the Persian Gulf when nothing is going on, in a largely symbolic role. They might even be called in to do NEO or HA/DR, but we all understand that any situation that requires real combat capability will result in a CSG arriving on scene.
So, to your assertion that the ESG allows the CSG to do other things... I guess it kinda does, as long as nothing of real consequence is happening next to the ESG. My argument isn't that the F-35B or ESG is useless, it's that we pour a lot of resources into them and get relatively little in return.
The COCOMs don’t just care about boats that can launch jets and fire missiles. COCOMs also care just as much about moving different capabilities from point A to point B, and that historically is a very challenging proposition. You’re also not well informed on the numerous operations that those ships support and not as a symbolic effort, either. There was a reason they put SPMAGTFs across the med and Middle East. We’re the only nation and service that can do it consistently, and at scale. Your thought process is a parochial point of view, but I guess I shouldn’t be surprised considering this is a website that revolves around carrier aviation.
Lastly you shouldn’t throw stones in glass houses about resource management. The Navy has spent billions on poor decisions resulting in the LCS, DDG-1000, and Crusier modernization program that all went nowhere.
Maybe, maybe not….others are thinking similar things.
Could repurposed oil rigs become the Navyâs new floating logistics hubs?
Leidos outlines an intriguing plan to acquire oil rigs and convert them to everything from maintenance to medical hubs. Find out how it would work.
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A floating FOB...so put a FOB on it.
Or make it an OLF that has minimal capability for the air vehicles, with much higher value platforms doing the comms, cyber, intel, medical, etc.
These platforms are dirt cheap. Dumb not to consider how to exploit them to spread our forces.
Well tell this to the navy guys who are your taxi drivers on that SPMAGTF/SPMEU/jump jet city. They dont even know you are there. They have a gun shoot to do at 0300 after you just landed. Sorry
I was honestly curious about the subject until I saw defensenews.com pimping videos from the NFCU. Next, I'll be getting ideas from that 2-star selling VA mortgages.Maybe, maybe not….others are thinking similar things.
Could repurposed oil rigs become the Navyâs new floating logistics hubs?
Leidos outlines an intriguing plan to acquire oil rigs and convert them to everything from maintenance to medical hubs. Find out how it would work.
How many C model squadrons will never go to the boat?
Two of the ones ID’d in the AvPlan will be Reserve, so at least them. As for the active squadrons, that’s still an open question but I believe the intended paradigm for now is one TAI per coast (314 and 251). Maybe one more out of Miramar between 323/232.
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