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DanMa1156

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phrogdriver said:
Community missive from where? PMA?

Where are there Navy station SAR aircraft now, anyway? The Marine Corps got rid of most of theirs awhile back except for Yuma.
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The 2 HSC Commodores are who signed it if I recall correctly.
 
Uncle Fester

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That was the whole rationale for the Army buying the -72s, iirc. Get something cheaper and stop using -60s for most Stateside utility missions.
 
ChuckMK23

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Jim123 said:
On the topic of the T-6, the Leonardo/Augusta/Boeing AWMH139 mashup, and in the context of buy-here procurement- the T-6 started out as a Swiss airplane. Beechcraft of Kansas sort of adopted it and got rights to build a derivative. Then they made it heavier, slower, needing longer runways, but otherwise equally capable (g limits, 0/0 ejection seats, fully aerobatic). Voila, they won the JPATS competition in the 1990s. Fast forward about twenty years to the A-29 debacle, which is a squabble over Brazilian airplane to be built under license in Florida. One of (then) Hawker-Beechcraft's main stall tactics was a PR campaign that it would be unpatriotic to buy a foreign airplane for the light turboprop attack mission. Sort of a "throw poo at the wall and see what sticks" strategy. They were going through bankruptcy at the time, so there was probably some desperation to get more revenue streams.

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The MH-139 will also be used by AF in the Capital Area doing VIP/Foreign dignitary/Senior Executive Service transport - so this aircraft will get a lot of exposure - that was my point in saying that this bodes well for Leonardo and getting TH-119. A lot of senior folks are going to be riding this and saying "cool helo".
 
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ChuckMK23 said:
The MH-139 will also be used by AF in the Capital Area doing VIP/Foreign dignitary/Senior Executive Service transport - so this aircraft will get a lot of exposure - that was my point in saying that this bodes well for Leonardo and getting TH-119. A lot of senior folks are going to be riding this and saying "cool helo".
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Not sure how MH-139 exposure begets a TH-119. I don't know what the MH-139 sked looks like but I'd bet they won't be flying VIPs around prior to TH-119 source selection. Also, you need to read up on how source selection works; there's a bit more rigor to the process then some VIP saying "cool helo."
 
MGoBrew11

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DanMa1156 said:
I'd hazard a guess ~35-50% of USN helo pilots don't fly past their first tour. Not sure about other communities.
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50% seems way high to me. I might be able to buy 33%. I can count on one hand the number of guys/gals I know who wanted to NOM but didn’t, and the majority of them picked up Station SAR.
 
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