Fun to fly, a bit of a terror on autos.
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I do apologize for offering any advice, since some how you KNOW what I went through.
Being a 24 years of service retired old fart I understand why you feel my opinion and insight should be dismissed.
And when did I say it did?
I will say, even though everyone who know me knows that I'm a lifelong aviator, being in Officer of Marines WAS the pillar of my career.
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I've flown the OH-6, and I agree.
In 1965 these only cost $19,860 each ($201,777.60 today).
Talk about bang for your buck!
I hated flying that thing.
It will translate to the sort of hand and foot awareness of flying we want, but that thing is no fun in weather of any kind.
Didn't the Ana have a successful experience as a primary trainer?
Save the dramatics. No one is saying you're experience wasn't valuable nor was it probably any different from many other Marine aviators. Lecturing a crowd of aviators on the benefits of having collaterals is tone-deaf. They're a necessary evil at best. Expounding on the utility of them as a benefit reeks of institutional bureaucracy that garners collective eye rolls from most ready rooms. You also probably need to come to terms with the fact a lot of Marines or sailors value their time more as pilot than being an officer... and that's okay, too. Pontificating the "officer first, pilot second" mantra has been well addressed on this forum, many times.
How dare you tell me what I need to do.
Offer your opinion, fine. Tell me what I must do... I don't think so.
When is doing military things, while in the military, a necessary evil?
You're apparently unable to see that not everyone thinks that having all the trappings of military reality at the same time as learning something new is a bad thing.
One thing I do know as a fact, I don't remember anyone ever saying "Gee wiz, why do we have to do military stuff? All I want to do is (fill in topic of our choice)."
Being an aviator has been my lifeblood since I was a 10 year old hanging around my local airport.
Learning to fly at that same airport, and then being able to do so in the Corps and Army, were the most enjoyable parts of my life.
But I doubt I stand alone when I say again that being in Officer of Marines WAS the pillar of my career, in addition to defining who I am.
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A TH-73 flew over my home this afternoon. First I've seen in the air.
I have to admit, I'd love a chance to see how she flies.
I have to admit, I'd love a chance to see how she flies.
To go back to the training program, the process needs to get shorter - not longer. If the COPT-R program is saving 7 months for the helicopter students, it might need to become mandatory. This would also lessen the strain on the T-6 pipeline and improve time to train for the fixed wing as well.
With industrial scale war already underway in Europe and becoming a stronger possibility in the Pacific, fixed wing primary for everyone is becoming a luxury we can’t afford anymore.
As for putting all rotary wing training under Army control, having separate helicopter programs provides more redundancy and flexibility.
Great story. No one cares.
Have you met an Air Force reservist lately? 😭
I suppose you could say they did, but for the throughput they were making and the absolutely stacked cadre of guys training them it’s hard to say that would be reflective the same way with our pipeline.
I just found the aircraft exhausting/taxing to fly for any continuous period, so I don’t think it makes so much sense to use for new aviators who on top of that are going to see tactical tasks of some sort in it for the first time.
And with this, there is no reason for anyone here to every offer their opinions or life experiences to these threads?
Understanding our contributors and what drives them, their experiences, where they are coming from is what brings strength and value to the discussion.
I am at a loss as to why anyone here feels the need to make personal attacks.
If you find something said to be of no interest to you, then just don't respond.
But don't speak for the rest of us.
There are distinct differences between Naval (USN/USMC/USCG), Army and Air Force aviators, not so much as being pilots, but in the mentality behind how you approach your aircraft and mission.
For me, the biggest challenge when going from Marine to Army aviation was the comparative rigidness and lack of flexibility you had in the air.
You simply can not fly an Army aircraft with the same mentality as a Marine aircraft.
I found this true with both FW and RW.
The subconscious expectations between the two pilots have subtle differences, and in ways that may not be discovered during a pre-flight briefing.
Having at least two (Naval & Army/AF) is essential to prepare the young aviator to move to tactical units within their service with a strong establishment of being a Naval/Army/AF aviator.