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How demanding is the NROTC program?

Bevo16

Registered User
pilot
Those choosing not to seek a commission joined the Corps in order to stay in shape and have a more structured college life I suppose.

Which one of those is going on here?

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hokieav8r

~Bring the Wood!~
None
Pill_Hacker said:
So someone would join the Corps of Cadets, but not ROTC to.......prepare for OCS or PLC?

VT started as a military School in 1872. It was modeled after other popular military schools such as the USMA, Citadel and VMI. Other than the Military Academies of Army, Navy, and Air Force, you can actually put yourself through hell at these "military" academies, getting training, discipline, and the heritage and affiliation to the school(and probably a family member who also attended), only to graduate and enter the civilian work force. I can see the benefits of being included in that lineage and the fraternity of people and networking. It does seem however, kinda crazy to put yourself through that system with no military job waiting at the end. I recommend watching "Lords of Discipline"(based on 1951 or so book). It is modeled after the Citadel, very fun to watch, not absolutely realistic but a close representation. VT and A&M are the only two schools that have a "greater" civilian student population now. They both, at one point in time, were military only. Norwich seems to have civilians now, maybe just for graduate education, maybe someone could weigh in on that as I am not totally sure.

Scoolbubba, well said on the BS going on these days. That was just starting when I was getting ready to graduate and I'm glad I got through unscathed.
 

hokieav8r

~Bring the Wood!~
None
.... you can actually put yourself through hell at these "military" academies, getting training, discipline, and the heritage and affiliation to the school(and probably a family member who also attended), only to graduate and enter the civilian work force. I can see the benefits of being included in that lineage and the fraternity of people and networking. It does seem however, kinda crazy to put yourself through that system with no military job waiting at the end. ...

I did forget to mention, that going through the Corps of Cadets will yield you a minor in Leadership studies and also they commission you into the Virginia Militia at the same rank you held as a cadet your senior year. I don't know anything about that anymore other than you get a certificate for the Virginia Militia and completion of your duty in the Corps of Cadets. If you attain a job in the VTCC after graduation, and you are non military, you will wear an Army style class A uniform, wearing a Virginia Militia Crest and take the oath of office at the rank and grade you commissioned into the Virginia Militia with. It is an awkward thing to see around campus. I saw a younger cadet, who was originally Air Farce, who didn't get his commission due to medical, take a job with the VTCC as a recruiting type guy, and the next day he was walking around with Captains Bars on his "Army style Class A uniform" and expecting me to salute him when I was the 2LT goldbar recruiter, Active Duty at the VT Army ROTC.
 

FlyBoyd

Out to Pasture
pilot
Looks like Go Texan night at a gay bar

Yup, band geeks are band geeks. I suppose the only thing that would make it more gay was if they marched the same way everytime playing the same song over and over and over and....hmmmm who would that be?
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Gay? What about this?


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vs this

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And what the fuck is this?

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Am I supposed to start an engine? Has he pulled the chocks? We have lineman openings down here. Looks like yell leaders are qualified.

Keep in mind that when the season is over, the record books won't show if you won halftime.
 

scoolbubba

Brett327 gargles ballsacks
pilot
Contributor
Scoolbubba, well said on the BS going on these days. That was just starting when I was getting ready to graduate and I'm glad I got through unscathed.

Yea, I got through. I wouldn't say unscathed, but here I am with gold wings so it's water under a bridge, somewhere. Don't get me wrong, I made great friends there who I still keep in touch with and who are all over the world in the military. Then again, I've never had trouble making friends, so I'm not sure the "but these are people you'll be friends with because they are like you" networking thing really holds for me.

I didn't appreciate the type of people who would blow someone to get command of a company and then lord it over me/other dudes as a senior. Most of them are getting out of the military in 2 years or less, and some had a bad time of it while they were in. Hmm...wouldn't know why when they had a cock mustache all the way thru college. I didn't really expect much to change when they hit the 'real' military.

I put my work in at ROTC, got a real commission (not in the Virginia Militia as a Cadet 1st Lieutenant woo!) and got the eff out of the corps dorms, not to look back. I've kept in touch with the Alumni Director and one of the Deputy Commandants, because they were good mentors while I was there who seemed pretty intent on developing cadets into officers and building and maintaining an alumni network. The rest....well, fuck 'em pretty much sums it up.
 

wink

War Hoover NFO.
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
All these are good points. I do have one thing to say. If you have the means to attend college without heavy financial aid, and are planning on being a tech major, and know you are a go getter who will get good grades... DO OCS! Save yourself... Just kidding... sorta

Hard to know you will get good enough grades in college for OCS as a HS senior. If you get a NROTC scholarship and are sure you want to be in the Navy or USMC and pass it up, you are really betting on the come. There is no way to be sure of the OCS quotas or competitive profile four years out. OCS essentially takes up the slack for officer demand not met by ROTC and USNA. The annual quotas can vary wildly depending on a host of issues. Pass on the NROTC gig and run into a little trouble with grades, coincident with a spike in competitiveness and you will find yourself screwed four or five years later. Can you say bird in the hand?
 

wannaflywindy

Hopeful Pilot
I want to join a NROTC unit too, but I had kinda...crappy grades in HS. also, I want to be a pilot in the Marines, is it worth going NROTC, or should I straight up go OCS after I go to college?
 

Uncle Fester

Robot Pimp
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
I want to join a NROTC unit too, but I had kinda...crappy grades in HS. also, I want to be a pilot in the Marines, is it worth going NROTC, or should I straight up go OCS after I go to college?

You already started a thread with this question. Please don't re-post yourself...it's annoying.
 

wlawr005

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
Either way, Marine option MIDN in NROTC have to go to Marine OCS. You might as well go NROTC and be prepared for OCS than dick off in college and fail.
 

AirAggie92

New Member
Texas A&M has a stereotype of being "gay." I visited the campus and found this to be very untrue. Oh and Bevo, clinging even tighter to guns and religion is what MANY Aggies do as well, including myself :)

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AldisCurt

Banned
From what i understand, the demand is not as high as it once was. It seemed to be at its highest in the 80's and throughout the 90's. Most Japanese these days study English at western English colleges and universities in Britain, America, Canada, Australia etc. Demand is higher for specialist areas though..
 
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