mattwieand
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Does anybody know how many winged naval aviators there have been? How many jet, helo, props? # of Navy and Marine Corps. I am standing watch and I'm really bored.
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How many Naval Aviators have there been?
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But young grasshopper...if you were truly bored, you would find out yourself.
We await your answer to your question.
We await your answer to your question.
So I Googled and found this:
http://www.history.navy.mil/avh-1910/APP01.PDF
Go to page 14 of the PDF. At the bottom it says 153,037 through 1995. The text says that the number includes all people designated as naval aviators (USN, USMC, USCG, and foreigners).
http://www.history.navy.mil/avh-1910/APP01.PDF
Go to page 14 of the PDF. At the bottom it says 153,037 through 1995. The text says that the number includes all people designated as naval aviators (USN, USMC, USCG, and foreigners).
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RickyDT34
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That was a very interesting read. :sleep_125airgreg said:
mattwieand
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thx airgreg, i found that page in my search, but i was hoping that someone could provide a breakdown by designator, or jets vs. helos or whatever. And Pat, just think, when I'm rich and famous you can tell your grandkids that the great Matt Wieand once spilled a gallon of tea on your kitchen floor in a drunken stuppor!
For some reason I think that number is high, I know you stated that it was "combined" with those other stats. I just recall at my winging, they gave you this card with your Naval Aviator # on it, and part of the winging spiel was there have only been XXX number of Aviators so far in our country's history, blah blah blah...
So, I too call the bull**** flag, and second Road and say, dude, answer your own question and tell us what the answer is, and give us a correct one this time!
Don't make me dig through all my filing crap to figure it out, I'm too damn lazy, and am trying to practice how to be a wanna be O4 staff weenie and my random JO tasking ability....
(zab, eagle, steve and the rest of you who would FLAME me for that last statement, I KEED, I KEED!!!)
So, I too call the bull**** flag, and second Road and say, dude, answer your own question and tell us what the answer is, and give us a correct one this time!
Don't make me dig through all my filing crap to figure it out, I'm too damn lazy, and am trying to practice how to be a wanna be O4 staff weenie and my random JO tasking ability....
(zab, eagle, steve and the rest of you who would FLAME me for that last statement, I KEED, I KEED!!!)
You know what's worse than being a newly minted O-4 and tasking JO's? Being an O-3 and tasking JO's. Both my boss and I are O-3s and he's really gotten me into this whole "tasking" thing. Yep, nothing like bringing a message to your roommate and telling him he needs to make the corrections you just wrote in there. When you do that, you can actually feel the knife in your OWN back. It's an interesting feeling and it sucks.
I've got no allegiance to the numbers... I just found 'em on Google.
It's possible that the 153,000 number includes a lot of foreigners. Didn't we train a lot of Brits or Frenchies during WW2. I seem to remember some buildings at Pensacola with signs saying X,000 British aviators came through these buildings (or something to that effect).
Also, adding up the numbers on page 14 for WW2, it looks like roughly 65,000 people were trained during 1940-1945.
Then again, these numbers might have been calculated by the same monkey that picks your NSS out of a hat.
It's possible that the 153,000 number includes a lot of foreigners. Didn't we train a lot of Brits or Frenchies during WW2. I seem to remember some buildings at Pensacola with signs saying X,000 British aviators came through these buildings (or something to that effect).
Also, adding up the numbers on page 14 for WW2, it looks like roughly 65,000 people were trained during 1940-1945.
Then again, these numbers might have been calculated by the same monkey that picks your NSS out of a hat.
Perhaps that gouge you found considers a naval aviator any pilot that has ever flown over a body of water. I wonder if seaplane pilots are counted as well.
All joking aside, that number seems very large for just naval aviators. It is obnoxious to me that in the past, throughout parts of the 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's, someone with any degree and a marginal GPA could be a naval aviator.
Here I am, going after one of the hardest degrees on the planet, basically trying to be a child of frigging god and I am still facing the odds of a snowcones chance in hell at becoming a naval aviator. :shake_125
All joking aside, that number seems very large for just naval aviators. It is obnoxious to me that in the past, throughout parts of the 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's, someone with any degree and a marginal GPA could be a naval aviator.
Here I am, going after one of the hardest degrees on the planet, basically trying to be a child of frigging god and I am still facing the odds of a snowcones chance in hell at becoming a naval aviator. :shake_125
what irks me are those folks that have wanted to be naval aviators since Sept. 11th 2001. i wanted it since i was a kid not just to jump on the patriotic bandwagon. There's nothing wrong with being patriotic but those are the ones plugging up the pipeline and making it harder to get in. Where was everyone when the Navy needed folks? I know i was busting my ass to get a commission.
rare21 said:
Well, if they're good enough pilots I don't think it matters. I'm sure there's always been plenty of people who wanted to fly since age 6, but couldn't, who've been attrited, and plenty with less motivation, who did better and got wings. The Navy doesn't owe anyone anything.
rare21 said:
Well, if you do your math, 2004-2001=3 years....which leads me to conclude that, at least those commissioned through the Academy and NROTC, the "ones plugging up the pipeline" joined PRIOR TO September 11. So quit whining, and keep busting your ass.
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