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Huckabee vs. Obama?

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AJB37

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There have been big deals made out of Romney's religion..

The media makes a big deal about Romney's religion because very few American's understand the Mormon religion. Many view it as cult like, and fear that if differs greatly in morals as compared to Anglo-American ethics. Obama's middle name was reported on a little at the very beginning of the campaign, plus as has been stated before he isn't Muslim and has no connections with Muslim or Arabic institutions. American's are also growing more accepting of these cultural differences anyways, Minnesota elected the first Muslim Congressman in the last election who was sworn in on the Koran. Yes, having the middle name "Hussein" could make for some great political satire, but it is really not that big of a deal.
 

red_ryder

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I thought I'd make it clear I wouldn't vote for a lightweight lefty like Obama. No qualifiers needed. Period.

I find it hypocritical that the MSM chooses to "omit" that little factoid from his bio (the Husseiny-Muslimmy part) when broad knowledge of that little item could (would??) sway Joe-6-pack and independent voters en mass over to another candidate (or even a Republican, perchance?? *gasp*
:eek:).

Some would like to see my comments as racially-based. Others as religious-based. That would be strike 1 and strike 2. You're just simply wrong trying to attach "motive" to my comments. It's really simple: main stream media hypocrisy.

For the record: I trained Muslimmy-Husseiny Arabs and Iranians, amongst others of foreign origin. One Kuwaiti Prince liked me so well, he wanted me to "come home" with him and be an adviser/mentor to him. I declined ... but I shoulda taken the watch or at least the rug. :)

They didn't omit it. They talked about that towards the beginning of his candidacy, or at least, as much as you can discuss the implications of a middle name. Any more and they'd be beating a dead horse, probably make themselves look ridiculous as a news source for dwelling on it.
 

raptor10

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So raptor, just out of curiousity, what does placing your hand over your heart during the Anthem mean to you? Since you posted that picture, I presume you want us to garner an understanding about Obama since he failed to place his hand over his heart.
These days, putting my hand over my heart, and being in the minority of those that do so, is an open defiant gesture, which shows my support of my country, and the principles that men and women have fought and died for over the past 200+ years.

Apparently Barack Hussein Obama (apologies if I offended anyone there) does not believe that it is necessary or prudent to make an overt declaration of his support for America, or his allegiance to it...
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The Dalai Lama and Kasur Lodi Gyari, during the National Anthem. (I’ll let you guess which one is which)
 

QuagmireMcGuire

Kinder and Gentler
Raptor, do you believe that placing your hand over your heart is the only appropriate way to show deference and respect? Or, is the only appropriate way if one is American?
 

MasterBates

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YES!

You show respect. If your religion does not allow that, do what is allowed.

Hand over heart, uncovered.
Salute if in uniform..

If you don't love America, no fence keeping you here.
 

mmx1

Woof!
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I threw up a little in my mouth when Obama claimed the Anbar Awakening was due to the Democratic victory in 2006 in the ABC debates.
 

QuagmireMcGuire

Kinder and Gentler
YES!

You show respect. If your religion does not allow that, do what is allowed.

Hand over heart, uncovered.
Salute if in uniform..

If you don't love America, no fence keeping you here.

Again, I was asking Raptor to further clarify his comments but I do thank you for adding your's. :D
 

Spekkio

He bowls overhand.
That picture was taken during the national anthem. Obama didn't place his hand over his heart simply because he didn't know any better. Reports of him being "anti-American" because of this are grossly exaggerated.

Had he actually done this for a legitimate reason, I would view that as a sign of strong leadership and moral character.

You have got to be shitting me.

Godwin's law. Shut it down.
The irony in all this is that we created the precedent to the Goose walk -- except it was called the Bellamy Salute, and all children were required to do it during the Pledge of Allegience up to the 1950s.
 

mmx1

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That picture was taken during the national anthem. Obama didn't place his hand over his heart simply because he didn't know any better. Reports of him being "anti-American" because of this are grossly exaggerated.

Had he actually done this for a legitimate reason, I would view that as a sign of strong leadership and moral character.

Didn't know any better? What, he's been in a cave all these years?

I can't vote for a man whose clearly never been to a ballgame. What kind of American is that?:):D;)
 

Spekkio

He bowls overhand.
I've been to plenty of ballagames. Almost no one places their hands on their hearts during the Star Spangled Banner, and a good proportion have the audacity to talk.

Obama is considerably younger than the other candidates. That picture signifies a generation gap more than it signifies anything about Obama's political beliefs.
 

Nose

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Had he actually done this for a legitimate reason, I would view that as a sign of strong leadership and moral character.

Legitimate reason? Huh?

If he ever took action on important issues, if he had any executive experience, if he had ever served his country in any way, I would view that as a sign of someone marginally qualified.
 

raptor10

Philosoraptor
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Raptor, do you believe that placing your hand over your heart is the only appropriate way to show deference and respect? Or, is the only appropriate way if one is American?
It's one of the ways outlined here:
During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. -- United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171
 

raptor10

Philosoraptor
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Again, I was asking Raptor to further clarify his comments but I do thank you for adding your's. :D
United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10

§176. Respect for flag

No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.
  • (a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.
  • (b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
  • (c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
  • (d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.
  • (e) The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.
  • (f) The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.
  • (g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.
  • (h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
  • (i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.
  • (j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.
  • (k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.
 
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